Mike83
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Im not looking for race winning speed in the mud, i just want to turn some big meats and have some good ol fun doing it......i will leave the speed racing to the people who are good at it and can afford to build them lol
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Wide vs Skinny tires again!! What you all think?
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Mike83
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Im thinking affordable power upgrades and gears for now, ive seen low geared basically stock 350s turn 42s and have fun with it, they just dont fling stuff 100 feet in the air which is great dont get me wrong!!! Or a 454 of the same modifications (intake, headers, ect..)
Mike83
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I would love someone to hand me a big nasty BBC and say build the rig around it!!! but thats not gonna happen which sucks so i will have to take my time building my engines output but it will all be worth it when its done......or never done the way it usually goes lol
Axles provide quite a bit of flotation once you get that deep so do frames and the underside of the truck body!
The wide skinny debate will never be settled, I ran some 44s for a while that were wide, didn't like them went back down to 42s that are like 6" narrower and they worked better everywhere.
I have seen 38x11 boggers work really well in bottemless mud pits too.
So my take on it is this, buy what you like and thinks looks cool on your ride. Then you will be happy with them, no matter what tire you buy you will always say well if i had that I would not have that.
The wide skinny debate will never be settled, I ran some 44s for a while that were wide, didn't like them went back down to 42s that are like 6" narrower and they worked better everywhere.
I have seen 38x11 boggers work really well in bottemless mud pits too.
So my take on it is this, buy what you like and thinks looks cool on your ride. Then you will be happy with them, no matter what tire you buy you will always say well if i had that I would not have that.
Mike83
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Maybe i will just deal with for now and correct with gearing later and settle in the middle for the 37x13x15 boggers......how big of a noticeable difference is there in performance in mud and snow between tsl and boggers anyways?? Im sure tsl's would impress the sh*t outa me but i can only afford one set so im thinking all out, its just a mud toy anyways, rarely sees highway, once a week maybe.....
andyblack
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Also don't forget that if you drive on the road very much, the narrower tires seem to handle better, in my experience, especially when it's wet or there's loose sand scattered around. You may want to consider that.
Mike83
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Most of the roads to where we play are all gravel so any more than stock width is good and squirrely so ya make it a habit of going slow to not be paws up in the ditch!! lol especially with posi and i cant imagine boggers getting any traction when sliding sideways or winging a corner too fast......
Mike83
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So the last bit of info im looking for is tsl or bogger?? thought about running tsl front bogger rear but that is not gonna happen because it will see some highway use.....
andyblack
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I've seen lot of guys do the swamper front/ bogger rear deal. Swampers are awesome, but I've seen trucks equipped with nothing special other than Boggers pull off some amazing feats of traction in places where everything else was struggling. They're the ultimate around here. I know that the new breed of super radials has about taken over in parts of the country, but we have plenty of slick mud and clay and lots of dirt covering our trails and rocks. You may have a similar situation. Go for the Bogger!
This subject has been pretty hashed, but I'll put in my $0.02 anyhow.
For bottomless mud like you intend on wheeling in, the best tire, imo, would be a 35" that is as wide as it is tall. That would basically allow you to "float" across the top of the mud almost as if it was pavement. A wide tire exert less pounds per square inch than a narrow tire does. Wide tire = less psi = less force moving the mud.
But for most everything else, skinny is better. In rocks, a narrow tire with an aggressive lug will exert a lot of force on the rock to pull it up and over the obstacle. On the street, a skinny tire (to a point) performs better than a wider tire, and with better fuel economy, due to less rolling resistance.
A vehicle is designed around a certain size tire and contact patch, which affects the psi exerted on the ground. When sizing larger tires for a vehicle, the size of that contact patch should be kept in mind. It is best, imo, to keep near the factory contact patch. Unless you're building for mud or sand, then go as wide as possible.
For bottomless mud like you intend on wheeling in, the best tire, imo, would be a 35" that is as wide as it is tall. That would basically allow you to "float" across the top of the mud almost as if it was pavement. A wide tire exert less pounds per square inch than a narrow tire does. Wide tire = less psi = less force moving the mud.
But for most everything else, skinny is better. In rocks, a narrow tire with an aggressive lug will exert a lot of force on the rock to pull it up and over the obstacle. On the street, a skinny tire (to a point) performs better than a wider tire, and with better fuel economy, due to less rolling resistance.
A vehicle is designed around a certain size tire and contact patch, which affects the psi exerted on the ground. When sizing larger tires for a vehicle, the size of that contact patch should be kept in mind. It is best, imo, to keep near the factory contact patch. Unless you're building for mud or sand, then go as wide as possible.
