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WL: 1990 K5 (California to Nebraska on 38" rubber. (WARNING: Lots of Pics))

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the front has the weight of the engine on it and the traction of the rear still on flat ground to help pushing, once you have it up, the rear doesn't have the weight pushing against the rock but down wards and the front doesn't help much in that actually the leverage pulls it away for less traction.
A traction bar might give you a stable rear which will not hop, but it will not help you get over this obstacle, only longer wheelbases help in this situation, just the nature of the beast.
 
Nice pictures, looks like fun.

Make sure your bushings are in good shape, worn bushings can exagerate the wheel hop, also any lift blocks or zero rates will multiply it as well. But the true solution is definitely a traction bar(or 4 link), I would have to agree with you.

Also, on the stub shafts. I got the yukon (I actually ordered spicer and was upgraded for free because of stock status). Anyway, I would not recommend them, because with the stock inners the yukon had to be ground on a LOT to get my steering angle back, the clearance for u-joint angle was in a different spot than the stock shaft, and the steering angle was reduced about 25-30% before grinding. Plus, I had to grind on the outside of the shaft in order for it to clear inside the knuckle during installation. If I were to do it again I would get the mosers since the superiors are $400 a pop. I have moser axles in my regal and they are pretty nice, and they have a good reputation at the drag races, and are made in the USA.
 
I added a ORD traction bar and it made a huge difference. Before I would get to something and the tire would start hopping and cause me to slide back. Now I get almost 0 hop and the flex doesn't seem to be effected. Now to find a driveshaft that will bend 90 deg.
 
80' 427 said:
So the 35 spline stub axles are not direct fit?
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They are supposed to be(with new hubs), I was just saying with the yukon stubs I got I had to grind a lot or they would of reduced my steering angle a lot when used with stock inners. Surely not the case with stock spicers (or if I would of gotten yukon inners). If I ever break one I am going with the mosers next time.
 
I broke **** today. It was not a good day.

We went down on the river, and we were having a good time. I wasn't trying anything risky, because I was the only rig out there. A couple hours later another buddy showed up in his Blazer. We were having a lot of fun, but still not doing anything to serious. Well I drove up on a drift tree, and broke a branch off and hung up on it. No big deal. While trying to drive myself off I snapped the left Dana 60 outer. That is three Dana 60 outers in a month. ****! So no big deal, I have a set of 35 spline Yukons on the way anyhow.

My buddy pulls me off the tree, I kick the mangled fender back into place and we started heading back for the bridge. Then there was a loud pop and there went my spindle nuts. I have no idea what I all broke, but I can imagine the spindle is trash, along with possibly the hub. Had to limp it a couple miles off the river with nothing other than the caliper holding the left front wheel from falling off. It had some serious negative camber.

At this point I wasn't too angry. **** happens. So we are going to back it onto my buddies trailer. I tell them they have to guide me, because I can't really see what I am doing. Just shy of 10 people standing around watching, and no one tells me to steer one way or the other. That is when I hear my left rear tire pop as the ramp lock shred the side wall. That is when my mood went South.

So now I need one 325/85R16 Michelin XML, 2 Dana 60 spindles, a 30 spline outer axle shaft, a set of 30 spline Dana 60 lockouts, a set of 35 spline Dana 60 lock outs, two sets of spindle nuts, various bearings, some Dana 60 axle shaft u-joints, possible a hub, and more.

It was sure fun until then though.......

Martin
 
Here are a couple pictures that were loaded up on Facebook. Hopefully some better ones are posted on there.

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Martin
 
82355 said:
So now I need one 325/85R16 Michelin XML, 2 Dana 60 spindles, a 30 spline outer axle shaft, a set of 30 spline Dana 60 lockouts, a set of 35 spline Dana 60 lock outs, two sets of spindle nuts, various bearings, some Dana 60 axle shaft u-joints, possible a hub, and more.

Martin
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Bummer man!


Why do you need the 30 spline stub and lock outs if you're going 35 spline?

As far as the spindle nuts go I used to have a lot of problems with my 10b coming apart like that. I ended up over-torquing the outer lock nut (still set the inner properly) and it held up after that. I've also heard 14 bolts that use the key-stock and outer ring retention method are adaptable onto chevy 60's. Might be a good setup for you that isn't as $$$ as something like the setup offered by Stage 8.
 
I need the 30 spline stuff to replace the parts I stole from my 1982 K30. It is sitting on one jackstand now, and is soon to be sitting on two jackstands.

Martin
 
Thats a lot of carnage in a little time. Is your front locked or open? I wonder how much those Michelins weigh.
 
I'm locked in the front. Those Michelins are really heavy, but at least they suck.

Martin
 
The thing is, I only break it at slow speeds. When I am beating the snot out of it, or spinning the **** out of things, I never break anything.

Martin
 
My Yukon 35 spline outers showed up today.

That is the Yukon shaft on top, the first 30 spline outer I broke in the middle, and a broken Dana 44 outer on the bottom.

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The end of the second 30 spline outer I broke butted up to the Yukon 35 spline outer.

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Showing the sever neck down of the OEM 30 spline shaft.

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Broken Superwinch lock out.

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The caliper was all that held the wheel from falling off. Anyone who worries that grinding a Dana 60 caliper and bracket for clearance when installing 15" wheels is silly.

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My wheel did a little more clearancing to the caliper and bracket when I had to limp it off the river.

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Both brake pads fell out. The inner one is out on the river somewhere, the outer one was stuck inside of the wheel.

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You really shouldn't be able to take the hub off without removing the lock out first . . . . . . .

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The wheel bearings didn't fare well with the sand and the water after the spindle nuts broke.

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Martin
 
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