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One of the things that I like about it is that you could remove it pretty easily to put your OE tailgate back on. It's not a permanent situation. Now with my 90 it would be more work than with my 72, but I like how flexible it makes the rear area of the truck.

But that's just me.

Later,
Buddy
 
Once I was back on track, it was time to cut off the "pinwheel tubes" coming off the back of the cage, and set them up correctly near the b-pillar area with some .120" wall DOM sleeves (12" long per side). This gave me a chance to play with a new set of holesaws from SnapOn...

These babies are cool! They are like minature hole saw bits (very sharp) with a spring loaded centering pin. All you do is centerpunch the hole you want to drill and go directly to the size you want (in this case 3/8") without going through the normal progression of smaller bits to larger ones to get a clean hole. I used this bit to cut a few rosette holes on each side of the sleeve to anchor it in place permanently.... then I cranked up the welder and puddled up the holes..

Greg,

Getting ready to buy a set of the SnapOn Hole saws and just curiuos on how yours are holding up.
 
I've only drilled a few holes so far with them, but I'm already in love with this new tool.

It's sort of funny, when I bought the new set of expensive Jancy holesaws for my flare holes, I didn't really make the connection that they are simply a very LARGE annular cutter as well...though in that case the center bit is truly a drill bit, where on these smaller annular cutters the center is a spring-loaded steel point that is designed to ride in a centerpunched hole and keep the bit from walking around.

No other updates to share...my photo gallery has been down for over a week now, and I just know that if I tell you my current progress without any photos you guys will all just give me crap anyway! :D So for now you'll have to wait, and you'll get a larger update when the gallery comes back online.


Link to an old thread that will end up being useful research again soon: http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134086
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No other updates to share...my photo gallery has been down for over a week now, and I just know that if I tell you my current progress without any photos you guys will all just give me crap anyway! :D So for now you'll have to wait, and you'll get a larger update when the gallery comes back online.

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I think you need to host your photos on something other than an antique website. :haha:
 
I think you need to host your photos on something other than an antique website. :haha:


If you'd like to volunteer....there are probably 2000 photos that need to be moved, and about 9000 CK5 posts that will need to be updated to repair the broken photo links.

Interested? :deal:



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If you'd like to volunteer....there are probably 2000 photos that need to be moved, and about 9000 CK5 posts that will need to be updated to repair the broken photo links.

Interested? :deal:



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Interested in seeing you do all the work so us CK5 brothers have some new photos to look at. :deal:

I sure hope you have all your photos backed up somewhere because there is a chance you may lose them all on NCOR when the website gets updated here shortly.
 
Looks like the photo gallery is back up (at least for now!).... I'm tempted to give you guys an update and some new photos by the end of today.

I've got a decent list of parts enroute from various suppliers, but even with that stuff missing I've got a few things that I can still accomplish today.

A few more gulps of coffee and I'm outta here and into the shop. :saweet:




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Tri-Pro Automotive...

Not an OEM part, but close enough for me and WAY cheaper than the OEM stuff which I think are something like $125ea. :yikes:

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2009.08.24 - UPDATE! - OPTIMUS PRIME CONTINUES TO TRANSFORM...

As of my last update, I knew that the design of my cage was temporarily delayed due to the inability to place the spare tire behind the rear seat. I decided that before I spend much more time trying to create a solution it would make sense to have an ACTUAL tire/wheel combo to use for the mock-ups. I ordered exactly ONE tire (which is still on backorder).....the new BFG KM2 in a 38"x 14.50 x 17" size. I'm excited to see one in person, especially in the wider width. I think it will have a nice substantial look with the wider tread. Not quite as crazy as the 16" width of my current Swampers, but it should be a LOT better on the highway and this is one of those "compromise" areas that have to be made to build a true dual-purpose rig. I had better luck finding a cheap 17" wheel.....eBay to the rescue.

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Just a nice simple H2 takeoff wheel....$51. Plus it's got about 5.5" of backspacing which will be nice when I start trying to deal with the crazy offset issues of the portal axles.

Another thing I decided to at least start working on was adding structure to the torson box area where I'd removed the factory boxes. A piece of 2x4" square tube lays up nicely behind the inner rocker, and I was able to cut a little notch at the end so that it would dovetail into the front factory cab support (this will eventually be capped to keep water and mud out).

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I used a 6' length of tube for this, and when I went to cut the other end to length, I realized that I didn't really know the best place to make the cut since the rear quarter panel was already hacked up and has quite a bit of rust and missing metal.

There was nothing left to do but to dive in and find out what was going on...

I cut the factory spotwelds up the sides, and then cursed myself for welding and smoothing all the welds across the bedrail ( about 5 years ago)....it made my job a lot harder than it should have been.
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After about an hour, I had the payoff.....

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In this shot you can easily see the way that box tube is just hanging out in space. Once I get more of the rear exo-tubework figured out, I will tie it into that, I'm sure.

The rust looks bad in those pics, and didn't look all that good in person either. No through-holes, but there was some scaly rust so I decided to hit the whole thing with a Roloc disc just to see what I was dealing with underneath...


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This is the image that inspired me to buy a pressurized media blaster from the Eastwood company last week. This interior bedside panel will eventually become an "exterior" panel when the vehicle transforms for wheeling. It will need to be finished nicely, and painted the color of the rest of the truck since it will be completely visible. The blaster will get me down to perfect metal again, so that I can seal it back up...glaze over the areas where there is some surface texture then get it into primer and paint. There will be some cagework across the outside of this panel as well (think: rub rail for tree or rock), but it will be completely hidden when I attach the outer panels for street driving. It shouldn't be too hard to tie those bars into the interior cage for extra strength. I might even make them bolt-on so that they can be removed and replaced if they ever get really beat up and twisted.

Finally, since I'm kind of stalled waiting for my new tire, and the media blaster....I decided to at least work on the pivot for the rear swing-out carrier. I built a 3/16" plate that follows the contours of the rear bedside area and reinforced it with another 3/16" plate at a 90* angle. For the pivot, I'm using a 1.5" DOM tube sleeved into a larger 1.75" outer tube. This effectively creates a hinge that's almost 21" long and will be the first step in dealing with the massive stresses that a swing out carrier places on the mounting hinge.

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If everything goes according to plan the tire will sit flat across the floor, the swinggate will have a kickout to give me the room I need to get the tire behind the stock seat location. Ideally the tire will actually swing out wtih the tailgate, but if the weight is too massive it might not. Functionally, it probably doesn't matter much either way, but there is more "cool factor" if I can make it work the way I want.

Now the waiting game for the UPS and Fed-Ex drivers begins.... :thinking:



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I continue to be amazed at the guts it takes to try this stuff. The whole bedside is off?

On another note, I was helping Kevin move a tire on his truck and that thing was incredibly light for such a huge tire. I don't remember what they were, but they were probably 39's. I think he said they were super thin wall and much lighter than my 35's and might work well for a swing away spare tire like you are planning.
 
I continue to be amazed at the guts it takes to try this stuff. The whole bedside is off?

On another note, I was helping Kevin move a tire on his truck and that thing was incredibly light for such a huge tire. I don't remember what they were, but they were probably 39's. I think he said they were super thin wall and much lighter than my 35's and might work well for a swing away spare tire like you are planning.

Looks like the photo gallery is down again....the photo shows only the outer bedside skin is removed...the inner bedside is still intact as are the b-pillar support structure and the c-pillar post at the rear tailgate.


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Damn hosting site is down...

Really wanted to check the pics out too!

Rene
 
Looks like the photo gallery is down again....the photo shows only the outer bedside skin is removed...the inner bedside is still intact as are the b-pillar support structure and the c-pillar post at the rear tailgate.


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Damn hosting site is down...

Really wanted to check the pics out too!


Reference pic:
Not Greg's blazer but mine if it matters.

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Greg,

I was just considering what to do with my spare tire and had a scary thought. Imagine laying the tire flat in the bed right against the back of the rear seat and someone rear-ends you, there's not much "crumple zone" left between the rear of the truck and the back seat. The force could potentially be directed from the tailgate right through the tire to the rear seat and push any occupants forward.

One way to mitigate that danger is to mount the tire vertically (even outside the bed) so there's some crumple room in the frame, tailgate, and the bed. Mounting it on an angle could very well have the same advantage.

Anyway, something to think about.
 
'Course that presumes that the person hitting you has a vehicle tall enough to hit you squarely, and not just bury themselves underneath your gas tank area....

It's really a shame the gallery is down. I just took delivery of the new BFG KM2 in a beefy-looking 38 x 14.5" x 17" size today.... it looks sick! :saweet:

All I need to do now is get it mounted to my H2 wheel and start playing around with a mounting scheme. It's funny how much larger a tire looks when it's just sitting in the middle of the shop and not actually mounted on the truck.


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