bp71k5
3/4 ton status
Curious what strategy you will use to weld those tapered inserts in on the slider portion so that the slider doesn’t shrink and prevent those pins from all lining up...
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'72 K5 - Greg's @MightAsWellK5 Build
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This is the build description. I will improve this later. (GB)
Hey Brian,
Not sure if you remember several years ago when I first came up with this idea. The design was just a set of sleeved tubes at all 5 locations. Everyone (rightly) was concerned about the alignment...since it would have to be perfect for the slider to ever be removed (or installed) and if the outer slider tubing was dented or damaged on a trail ride it would trap the slider in those sleeves forever... or it would have to all be cut out with a SawZall to make repairs.
The concept of the taper is that it will tolerate slight misalignment across those 5 mounting points. As you start running bolts into them they find the center of their holes automatically.
Next weekend is Labor Day, and I took a few extra days off so there should be time to build the sliders and post up more photos of those assemblies and make sure it all works as planned.
-G
bp71k5
3/4 ton status
Hey Brian,
Not sure if you remember several years ago when I first came up with this idea. The design was just a set of sleeved tubes at all 5 locations. Everyone (rightly) was concerned about the alignment...since it would have to be perfect for the slider to ever be removed (or installed) and if the outer slider tubing was dented or damaged on a trail ride it would trap the slider in those sleeves forever... or it would have to all be cut out with a SawZall to make repairs.
The concept of the taper is that it will tolerate slight misalignment across those 5 mounting points. As you start running bolts into them they find the center of their holes automatically.
Next weekend is Labor Day, and I took a few extra days off so there should be time to build the sliders and post up more photos of those assemblies and make sure it all works as planned.
-G
I remember. I was wondering though if there’s still a bit of risk in things jamming up if the long tube shrinks even 1/16”. I assume you will bolt everything down and weld up the center-most pin, let things cool, then weld up the next one and repeat until you get to the ends. Or is any of that jazz needed at all?
We'll have to see, I guess.
The "ladder rungs" are solid 1.5" round stock... So if they are torqued-down to the mount, it seems hard to imagine that they would be pulled out-of-position from the final welding process.
Stay tuned. You know this thread isn't afraid to show the failures when they happen... and we can start a "Texas Tuition Pile" if needed.
-G
Clean and tidy. I was wondering if the tapers might receive some anti-seize, or do you think these will be on and off enough to make removal resistance a non-issue?
David
David
I'm no expert welder but from my experience with that sort of stuff you need to weld 2" at a time or less and then let it cool before you weld any more(cool enough you could hold your hand on it indefinitely).
Or, if you can design it so the welds are "even", meaning the same amount of weld on opposite sides of something, then it should stay relatively straight. If you are welding a lot on one side that side will shrink and be concave.
A set of greaseable bolts with zerk fittings would be awesome... but I'll probably just go low-tech and grease them up a little before installation.
Haven't played around with Steel-IT paints yet, but did buy one can just to experiment with. Might end up using that on underneath areas like axles and frame since touchups would be easier than if everything was powdercoated.
-G
I hope the Steel-it stuff is good. They are sending me a sample pint of the food grade stuff. It is 2 part. They asked if I wanted to be a distributor for Tennessee.
Burt4x4
1 Ton First Gen
Wasssup Mr. Greg72 ... Just pulled the K5 out from it's 10yr nap! Thought I'd visit the old site as well..boy this place is way different. I gotta pay to see the pics and stuff still....
See Yah!
Burt
See Yah!
Burt
!! BURT !!!
what’s up Brother?
hopefully at least some of my photos are visible without a membership. I’ve been having trouble with photo hosting services like Photobucket and a lot of my photo links are broken.
Any chance we can convince you to do the 20 Year reunion in Moab? 2022 still gives you plenty of time to get the truck running good and save up some bacon and beer money too!!
-G
Burt4x4
1 Ton First Gen
YYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHAAAAAAAA!!
20 YEARS! Holy-Moly!! Hell yeah, I'm IN!
I just got my rig registered again w/DMV :-)
Sorry for the off topic on your thread :-P
Burt
20 YEARS! Holy-Moly!! Hell yeah, I'm IN!
I just got my rig registered again w/DMV :-)
Sorry for the off topic on your thread :-P
Burt
I know how to find FrizzleFry (Chris) and Tori.... he'll probably bring his Tesla Cybertruck!
What about Louie?
https://www.instagram.com/p/CErQFDZDIKW/
-G
Burt4x4
1 Ton First Gen
Yeah, I have them two in my phone also. I just texted with Frizz earlier this summer. He has one of those Bought Not Built little rock car thingies now. His wagon is "stored" for now..
Louie Lueye! He has a couple of kids now, haven't spoke in years... I can reach his wife on FBook. Be cool to get "the band" back together lol
Louie Lueye! He has a couple of kids now, haven't spoke in years... I can reach his wife on FBook. Be cool to get "the band" back together lol
Hey look who is back.
I might as well try and do that one as well.
I did go in 2018 but since sold the blazer and building a suburban for the growing family.
So how old is your kid now 12-13?
Burt4x4
1 Ton First Gen
WAsssup IceMan! Good to see you still around... she is 12.. the older two are moved out and all grown up... = Old Guy
Sorry Greg, one last post
Yeah Steve, I did something similar.
My daughter who was 9 months old in moab in 2006 is now 14 but I adopted 2 boys, now 3 and 4 so starting over.
But I am trying to make it when a bunch of us like Greg and you, and maybe Mike can make it so we can have the old norcalbigdawgs crew one more time
Holy crap. Where did Burt come from?!
Burt4x4
1 Ton First Gen
HAHAhaha Wassup AJ!
Burt4x4
1 Ton First Gen
Greg Says 2022 so let's DOIT!! ****.... two years... I might have to go in 2021 to get warmed up for Greg's Future First Gen <<< super Scary Fab Work :-PSorry Greg, one last post
Yeah Steve, I did something similar.
My daughter who was 9 months old in moab in 2006 is now 14 but I adopted 2 boys, now 3 and 4 so starting over.
But I am trying to make it when a bunch of us like Greg and you, and maybe Mike can make it so we can have the old norcalbigdawgs crew one more time
This is a blast from the past the old school 1st gen dudes are coming in full force.
