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72 k5, sons first truck build.(officially NOT mine now..)

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sorry to hear Rick, I'm a firm believer that you turn into the crowd you run with, and bad influence is easy to pick up....Hopefully they will give him probation and no hardtime.

Tough thing to do, parting out the truck...think about it for a while, maybe that would give him something to straighten himself out with?

good luck buddy!
 
bad larry said:
First offense?
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for burglary yes. he got in trouble when 13 for felony harassment. that one was BS but the law dont care. then 1 year later after a year of bullying over the incident he told his counselor he wanted to blow the school up...... needless to say, he is no longer in that school. then recently he was caught with a 5" folding pocketknife in school.

None of them do I count much. the first one was a girl asked him "if you were to killme how would you do it?" So he gave a few Ideas. She said "be more specific" so he went into some SAW level ways. She got scared and handed the phone to the school office. It was considered a death threat on a student. We have the text transcript to prove how it went, state gave him a deferred judgement.

second one was his way of getting out of that school, he had asked us. but not explained what was going on.

last one was a random search, and I carried a pocket knife in HS too:dunno:

This one was BIG and took a while. He had plenty of time to stop or change paths.
 
76zimmer said:
sorry to hear Rick, I'm a firm believer that you turn into the crowd you run with, and bad influence is easy to pick up....Hopefully they will give him probation and no hardtime.

Tough thing to do, parting out the truck...think about it for a while, maybe that would give him something to straighten himself out with?

good luck buddy!
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it'll be at least march before its warm enough for me to do it. I plan on doing most of it after he goes in if they inprison him. It'll keep me busy
 
I remember not long ago when you showed the rig as a father son project.

Can't imagine just how difficult a time you are going through Shady...

Sorry to hear such news!

Hope they go easy on him.
 
I was a misfit too.. Not violent but hated school, smoked too much dope, didn't care enough, just a fu$! off in general.. I guess I can identify.. Took me finding something that I could really get into to set me strait.. I carried a knife too...still do... Good luck to you, can't really talk any sense into a young guy full of piss and vinegar at that age; hopefully he'll come out of it.. The classic case of "if I only knew then what I know now"...
 
Im assuming he is over 18. He may luck out if its not felony B@E or B@E with a deadly weapon. Technically offenses before the age of 18, if non violent by nature, shouldnt be held against you in later charges. Im not sure if the "felony harassment" would be considered violent, that would be up to the most likely a$$hat SA. Sounds like that one was just regular old BS make a example out of someone crap. Im sorry to hear it. Hopefully he gets his head on straight and doesnt get stuck in a state prison and avoids his problem child friends from now till whenever.

I was terrible from when I was 14 till 23ish. Drugs, assaults, alcohol, school, ect. It finally took a DUI and losing my children to their miserable mother for me to turn my life around. How I never got locked up mystifies me every morning I wake up. I was finally made an example of because I skated on 2 dui offenses by running from the scene. All in all I got 32 various driving tickets, plus the DUI, plus 2 domestic assaults (that was bs) and I fractured a guys skull in a bar fight (that I luckily skated on as he was embarrassed because he was 10yrs older than me). Now I dont mess around, but it took time, and alot of hard hits to the head to learn that the path I was headed down was probably not where I wanted to go. I pray he sees the light when he is standing infront of the judge like I finally did.
 
he's a very great kid in general. Everybody that knows him says so. Just those things I mentioned.
This one was as goes .... His buddies started talking about it seriously, He tried to talk them out of it, They made a few trips by them selves to try, they finally decided they had to break windows, He said "WAIT I know a better way" to prevent them from breaking stuff, He went down with the bolt cutters and cut the lock, they went in.... and said "Come On Get in here". So he did. :doah: Now we're in the waiting game. he's still 17 and they've kept it in juvenile court for now. But when juvy reviews it they have the option to kick it to adult court:confused:
 
That really sucks rick. Hopefully you can straighten him out a bit. Id hate to see all that hard work be parted out.
 
Well you should have the option to spring him, which Im sure will cost a shiny penny. Im thinking he is sitting in county? That could probably do it right there, depending on your sort of county. The county I live in has one of the highest crime rates in the US, so ours brings the suck. Alot of gangs, plus HIGHLY violent multiple offenders and your regular assortment of drunk miscreants, people drugged completely out of their mind, and your average B@E, car booster, and basic derelicts, and since they are so crowded, fish (new inmates) get tossed in with all of them.

He may luck out being 17, and get a broken wrist vs a slap, but this will be his last chance, next time they will send him to the clink for real. You, as his father, most likely have the greatest impact on him at this age. He probably looks up to you more than anything. And I know its hard to see, hell Im only 26 now, but I still look up to my dad for advice and the blah blah. Kids are just terrible and embarrassed to show that stuff, especially infront of their "bros". I know for me personally, my parents being disappointed in me hurt more than any beating I took, any fines I paid, and any court dates I had. Only advice I can give is be a dad, and try to make him see where he is heading. Going to easy/hard on them is so easy to do these days, and only leads to failure. I would be willing to bet your county jail will give you/him a guided tour of sorts, like the show "scared straight". That can be a real eye opener. Best thing is to just sit down and lay it all out on the line, and then thats all you can do, he is becoming his own man from here on out.

I sincerely pray he sees the light and follows a different path. I mean, we as men are easily persuaded (at any age :whistle:) to do things we shouldnt do by women and friends. Since your saying hes a good kid, he probably was just suckered into something he knew was wrong to impress his friends. We are all guilty of that.

All in all, maybe he and you need to do more things together and more often until he's a bit more sure of himself and able to say no to the wrong sort of behavior, that truck being an example. Idle hands and all that leads to trouble.

Good luck, and Im hoping and praying for you and yours. Its a hard time Im sure. I have a 6 turning 7/21 yr old girl, and a 4 yr old boy. So my time is soon to be here.
 
At 17, he won't be in county, he'll be in juvenile detention.

Martin
 
Ours is different here then, 17 and they take them to county. With the thing being only parents/legal guardians can bail them out vs an 18yr old can be bonded by anyone with cash in hand. But that could be our gang problem that lovely East St Louis brings upon our beautiful state.
 
I'm holding off on the truck for now. He is home, and we dont even have a court date. He has been cooperative with them since they showed up at the door. They think it may stay in juvenile but theres no way to know:dunno: He pulled me to the side last night and we had a LONG talk. He is scared as h3ll, He never intended on going in. But the heat of the moment standing on one of the busiest streets in town, He followed when they said Come on. Like I say, He does what I ask when I ask. Respects anyone who shows him respect. Helps his little brother out. goes to school on his own every day. keeps his grades well above passing. Doesnt drink enough to call it drinking and only when at home after asking me.

He's a good kid, I just think the same old Sit around and BS&play video games got Boring to them. This sounded exciting.

We'll see how it goes from here, Thanks for all the support guys

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We're currently in a holding pattern. Haven't heard wether it's staying in juvy or not. We're going to see if his court appointed lawyer cares or not and sell his truck to get a good one if he doesnt. He said he'd rather be truckless than inprisoned.
 
I hate Public Pretenders.....

Get a lawyer.
Make the kid do a sh*tload of charity work, and undergo a bit of counseling.
Do this before the court date.
Bring paperwork, and the right attitude.

That sh*t really helps sway opinions.
That is... IF you get a decent judge.

I might have been a troublemaker... :whistle:
 
he's already set up for counseling. :waytogo:
 
Talked to a lawyer who contacted the courts and it looks like their going to give him a deffered prosecution. He should get off real easy. He paid for the lawyer already, So the truck is SAVED. and he gets to finish school this way so our deal still stands.:waytogo: Now after the hearing on the 26th we'll know for sure
 
Good update!

I was wondering how this was going, but didn't want to ask just in case it took a turn for the worse.
Glad to hear the news!!:waytogo:
Thanks for the update.
 
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