hey Dave. I was wondering how those inserts will work for you...?? and why do you need them? cant you have the wheels machined to take the shank/washer mag style nuts? or maybe not enough material for that
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hey Dave. I was wondering how those inserts will work for you...?? and why do you need them? cant you have the wheels machined to take the shank/washer mag style nuts? or maybe not enough material for that
good questions Rick...the wheels are not hubcentric so they need to have the studs centered in the holes...the shank style lugnuts I've looked at didn't have the correct diameter for these holes...closest I could get is .065 smaller than the holes, leaving to much wiggle room between the hole and the shank, which would allow the wheel to move around on the stud (which is what happened with the old setup of shank lugnuts and flat washers on the seat) these inserts provide a solid surface (after a tapered seat is cut) for the tapered lugnut to seat against and center the wheel opening on the stud.
this is as close as I could come looking at shank style lugnuts:
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I've never understood the advantage of lug centric wheels.
Looks like you guys got the winter we had last year. We had snow like that til the last week of April. This year we had a warm spell in January that got rid of a bunch, then cold most of feb, and another 10 day warm spell recently (mid 50's) We had almost zero snow, until an inch or so fell on Thursday. Now we're back to freezing temps...but I feel like it's gonna end early for us this year.
Me either, I love the look of these wheels but what a PITA they've been as far as getting a proper fit...which I failed at the first time around.
The two wheels on the rear are a different brand, look a little different, and have a much thicker center mounting on them, the shank lugnuts I have for them work great...the front, not so much!
I read today in the local paper, we've had snowcover since Nov 8th, 3rd longest span in 60 years. We've also had the 3rd snowiest winter as far as total snowfall, and the 2nd coldest winter on record....23 days below 0*F/-18*C
The snow I really don't mind, like blowing it with the tractor, driving in it, and looking at it when its clean...the below freezing weather, yeah I'm done with that too...another couple weeks and our night temps should stay above freezing. we've been running 10-20* below our average temps for a long time now.
Ever had a hub centric wheel that was corroded in the center and had to be removed with a sledge hammer? I have. Not much fun at all. Usually I don't carry a sledge hammer with my spare tire and jack.
Never had a lug centric wheel do that. To me that is the only advantage to lug centric wheels. Outside of that, I think they are not as good as hub centric.
Typically hub centric will have a "more true" run out and carry a higher load capacity. On an off road vehicle, I don't think either of those advantages has much real world value.
Never had a lug centric wheel do that. To me that is the only advantage to lug centric wheels. Outside of that, I think they are not as good as hub centric.
Typically hub centric will have a "more true" run out and carry a higher load capacity. On an off road vehicle, I don't think either of those advantages has much real world value.
been there Kert...in fact my 99 had that issue when I first bought it...Discount tire guy said they had fun getting them loose from the hubs....I hit em with a clean up when I rotate em now.
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With the lug centric design, I can never seem to get the wheel on the hub exactly straight. I do the best I can to line them up but sometimes they still hop around like the tires need balancing.
Zim, I have to ask... Would it be better to try finding more wheels rather than spending a lot of money making a unique pair with the inserts? I mean, what if you damaged one? Then you're left with a single odd wheel and you still have to find replacements.
What he said. Custom lug nuts means no easy fixes on the trail or even just in a pinch.
Dave has a set of custom beadlocks that I think he is planning to run for just trail driving. The slots will be used for tooling around town I believe.
I already spent the money, and I'm stubborn enough to make em work now...Kert even said, why don't you just get the beadlocks put together!
As Jess mentioned...these will pretty much be for dunes and street duty...the custom DIY4X beadlocks will be for more demanding situations where I can air down as much as needed and trail repairs a bit easier as well.
I already have 2 sets of the same tires as well.
that's what I mean though...... just leave the H1's on is what I mean...no need to have the aluminum set that's damaged if you have that NICE A$$ set there, if they have the same tires.
The mags look way cool and prolly weigh 200lb less or more overall.
Let me say im glad dave put the motor in he did, because riding in it up the hills, wheel speed definitely becomes a factor. The maiden is a heavy beast
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I like aluminum wheels - until I crack one. I can see why you would want a street set and a hard core off road set. I would just hate to have to swap them all the time. I hate to even rotate my tires.
The mags look way cool and prolly weigh 200lb less or more overall.
Let me say im glad dave put the motor in he did, because riding in it up the hills, wheel speed definitely becomes a factor. The maiden is a heavy beast
I wish I wouldn't have put a BigBlock in it.....
I've said NEVER!
I wish I wouldn't have put a BigBlock in it.....
I've said NEVER!
no way I could hit the hills like you did if mine weighed what yours does... You make momentum not a factor in the sand.... And that's generally the biggest factor
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