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Behemoth Drivetrain - Strong Box Doublers

I ordered the DIY kit, I had a 241 donor, Jacob had told me the lead time was 4 weeks...mine took 10 to get to my door. I definetly wasn't happy about it at the time...a year...I would have filed as dispute long before that with PP.
Like I said....I'm super happy with the product, and I guess compared to others...I should be happy the time it took to get it :doah: :haha:
 
I bought a rear 205 mount from them. Like others, delivery time was easily twice as long as promised but the quality of the part is fantastic.
 
Wow. So glad to see everyone chime in so quickly. Indeed, I am well aware of all the other forums and talk surrounding Jacob and his business. Funny thing is, I've been talking to him for almost a year now and even got 3/4 of my order many months ago. I ordered a strong box, plus other goodies, and a triple stick shifter kit. The biggest delay so far has been the shifters, that I still to this day don't have.

There's more to the story, but what is important so far is he has made everything right that needed attention. I sent him some of the stuff back for rework (this was MY fault) but he's had it for more than 2 months now (I've been out of the country on biz.) and he's stopped replying! This is why I posted up yesterday in hopes that I could get somebody to chime in and say if he is still up and running.

I'm not going to say anything negative about Jacob because I really feel he's got the best of intentions and he's a super nice guy (not to mention selling really cool great quality products for insane cheap prices). But there's no hiding the fact that he just takes forever to deliver. This was no mystery to me before I decided to give him my business but I was hoping he'd had some of the growing pain stuff sorted out by now!
 
For what it's worth I went JB triple stick cable shifters (60" cables) and they are top notch and they work perfect with the strong box.
 
Just to say it out loud... when my stuff was late I tried to contact him (via text, iirc) and go no response. After a couple of days with no contact I posted in his vendor / sale thread on Pirate and heard back from him within hours. My point is, he definitely watches that forum. ;)
 
I never had much of an issue with him responding to texts...was always the next day at the longest.
 
Just to say it out loud... when my stuff was late I tried to contact him (via text, iirc) and go no response. After a couple of days with no contact I posted in his vendor / sale thread on Pirate and heard back from him within hours. My point is, he definitely watches that forum. ;)


Well, I hate to update with such negative news but I've been texting and leaving voice mails with him for nearly 2 weeks now and he's seemingly dropped off the face of the earth.

I'm really disappointed with the way he's dealt with my business at this point now - really too bad to find out a guy you thought was reputable ends up being such a let down.

I did just post over in Pirate too, so we'll see how that goes but I'm not optimistic at all any more. Bad thing is that NONE of my messages or times I've reached out to him have been nasty at all... I've been super patient and I just assumed that oh, this is my fault for going with a vendor there's been so much negative talk about but the truth is he's just a really lousy businessman - I shouldn't feel guilty about blasting him at this point!

So much time has elapsed since our original transaction but the crazy thing is since I sent him my stuff back to have it touched up (ring gear needed special diamond file work) now I have NOTHING at all for what I've shelled out tons of money to him for! In my last text to him now I just basically begged him to send my stuff back so I at least have SOMETHING to show for my money / time. He still owes me my shifters too - guess those I'll just never see....
 
Mike- that sucks !! After seeing the updates to this thread not long after actually getting and installing my box, I texted Jacob to see what was going on as I had a few people interested after seeing mine in action. I did receive a text back about a week later....he informed me that he had or was in the process of selling the business to a larger manufacturer that could keep up with demand, and that he was still going to be involved in it with R&D and new products, I believe the Facebook page had a similar message posted recently. He also said that the website would be back up shortly once the transaction was completed.
Unfortunately I have no idea what that means for your particular situation, hopefully you get something back...
 
DO NOT do business with

Behemoth Drivetrain
owner Jacob Clark
237 Sadler Road
Leitchfield KY 42751

he stole my money and will steal yours too
 
DO NOT do business with

Behemoth Drivetrain
owner Jacob Clark
237 Sadler Road
Leitchfield KY 42751

he stole my money and will steal yours too

Not defending Bohemoth at all.......but how about some details. It's easy to post in a forum under a screen name and a location of "earth" calling someone out....at least tell us your story about how he stole your money.
I hate to hear the bad experiences soo many have had....I was obviously one of the lucky ones....I got everything I paid for and it works awesome......it did take twice as long as I was told...but I got it all and it's top notch.
 
Mike- that sucks !! After seeing the updates to this thread not long after actually getting and installing my box, I texted Jacob to see what was going on as I had a few people interested after seeing mine in action. I did receive a text back about a week later....he informed me that he had or was in the process of selling the business to a larger manufacturer that could keep up with demand, and that he was still going to be involved in it with R&D and new products, I believe the Facebook page had a similar message posted recently. He also said that the website would be back up shortly once the transaction was completed.
Unfortunately I have no idea what that means for your particular situation, hopefully you get something back...

Right, I hear ya! As far as his products go - hey, I'll be the first to say they are of awesome quality and really great value! But his customer service is... well... NON existent! He has screwed up so many times with my order and would you believe the last batch of stuff I sent him back, he'd actually given me a bunch of free duplicate items I didn't even order! I was NICE enough to send that stuff back to him on my OWN DIME! God its no wonder he's failing on his own as he simply can't manage the orders and getting the parts sent out on time as he promises.

My situation as it currently stands is I am out the following parts:

-- 1 complete strong box WITH my guts from the transfer case I installed already... Jacob kindly agreed to file the ring gear for me in the area that I damaged when I drove the ring gear out of the aluminum case of the donor xfer case.
-- 1 triple stick shifter assembly & boot. (he's sent me the peripherals previously but WTF dude??? This stuff is worthless without the shifters!) I've been waiting for the shifters now for almost a YEAR.

So I called him today and what do you know, his voicemail box is FULL. That and he never replied to the text I sent him last night begging to just send me my parts back even if he was too scatterbrained to have worked on it by now.. (Nevermind the fact he acknowledged my parts about 3 weeks ago and promised to ship them out the next Monday)




Not defending Bohemoth at all.......but how about some details. It's easy to post in a forum under a screen name and a location of "earth" calling someone out....at least tell us your story about how he stole your money.
I hate to hear the bad experiences soo many have had....I was obviously one of the lucky ones....I got everything I paid for and it works awesome......it did take twice as long as I was told...but I got it all and it's top notch.

Not really surprised to see somebody show up out of the blue, hunting a live thread about BTD and Jacob. That's what I've been doing... Heck, I even posted my first post on Pirate the other day in hopes Jacob is watching. Hell, I've got nothing left that I can do at this point.


JT - I was almost in your shoes too.. Mistake I made though was when I sent him my parts back just because he had some diamond files he'd done the minor "fix" on the ring gear with himself. (If any of the teeth on the ring gear are even barely peened over even at the outer edges, the planetary gears make an obnoxious noise once every rotation). That, plus I decided to add the triple shifter kit too. I'm an idiot - I should have just kept my nice strong box and all, and ordered a shifter from JB custom fab or something... :rolleyes:


So.. To any of you guys that have luck getting a hold of Jacob - I ask the brotherhood for this favor - tell him to PLEASE reply to Mike in Wisconsin about his stuff! I'm really not an a-hole, at this point I just want my stuff back!
 
You seem more than reasonable given the situation.

Hopefully you get your parts back.
 
You seem more than reasonable given the situation.

Hopefully you get your parts back.


Looking more and more like not a chance in hell its gonna happen.

Countless texts and calls and no replies any more over the last month or so. Never would I have guessed this guy was going to turn out to be a man of such little integrity. I think his friendliness and "good guy" appeal to many of us is why he got away with his poor business practices for as long as he did.

And I doubt I can even dispute via paypal like so many others are doing with him now since my purchase was so long ago.

The worst part of all this is so much of my build centered around this part, and now the idea of having to BUY another doubler elsewhere makes me sick. Every day seeing my K10 sit there with no drivetrain in the garage makes it worse too...
 
Quick update for anyone watching. (I'm sure I'm doing this at this point just to publicly vent!)

Jacob replied to me via text about 10 days ago swearing that his phone got smashed and he lost a bunch of voicemail and text. So he asks me what address to ship my stuff back to and poof... Now he's vanished again and won't return calls or texts.

I even called him yesterday morning as I was driving through Bowling Green near his address and left a message asking if he'd meet me and bring me my stuff. Naturally, no reply.

I'm sure the company he's selling his biz. to is thrilled to see the kind of mess he's left behind. I'm also certain their lawyer has warned them to make sure to have some kind of clause about HIS debts and they don't have any liability to former customers!

DO NOT BUY FROM BDT... There. HAD to finally say it.
 
This happens to much in 4x4 community

Well, I'm afraid you're right too. However, I shouda known better after reading all the previous negative stuff surrounding his biz.


UPDATE - I got a text from him by god. He's telling me I will have my stuff back by Monday. (Holding my breath) :rolleyes:

This is just after having to stoop low enough to threats of filing a complaint with KY attorney general too.
 
:rolleyes:

Still no parts on my doorstep. What a dishonest, lying sack of $hit this guy is folks. Anyone who has concluded a successful transaction with Jacob Clark should consider themselves a lucky man.

I guess its back to making threats (following through) with lodging a complaint with the KY attorney gen.


Edit: I just realized this rant is starting to look like it rather belongs on Pirate now! haha.. I'll update here if I DO ever get the strong box back. :)
 

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