The wording of all of that makes it sound like if “blazer bash” hadn’t formed an entity to have the event they wouldn’t even need a permit. Sounds like once you charge admission, have vendors and organize trail rides that’s when it all goes south.
This is such a circular issue. Participation fees have to be charged because permits are required which also require the added expense of insurance.But
Special Events include (but are not limited to) events where entrance/participant fees are charged or suggested or other compensation is exchanged, retail sales are conducted or vendors offer goods or services, trail rides are regulated by a commercial, organized group/event, or competitive SRP (or similar) issued by the state or federal government are organized; races; concerts; or a public assembly, such as a parade, rally, or celebration.
No venders or sponsors or raffle items if that is the case.Or we just show up and hang out with some friends like regular people. (Free americans)
Off Road Design is my friend.No venders or sponsors or raffle items if that is the case.

But there not going to put their name on a event that is not a eventOff Road Design is my friend.
Blazer Bash didn't happen this year but there was still an off road design barbecue at the event that didn't happen. Allegedly.But there not going to put their name on a event that is not a event

Then the circus pulls up and you're like "wtf did I get myself into?"Blazer Bash started out as a bunch of CK5 guys hanging out in Moab. Frankly it wasn't that great. My first trip there I had only been on CK5 a year and didn't know anyone except @B_to_C who drove his truck out too. We showed up on Friday morning and didn't have a clue where we were going. We just found the group at City Market and about 5 minutes after we got there, trucks started leaving. Didn't have any idea what trails were being run so we just jumped in with our K5 loaded full of our luggage. Turns out we were doing Hell's Revenge. Needless to say that was quite an eye opener.
That experience is what motivated me to jump in and help Steve with the event. As a new person I learned how intimidating it is to show up for something like that and not have any idea what going on. I felt like the little lost puppy just following the other dogs around trying to make sure I didn't get left out. I always felt like Blazer Bash could be an opportunity to give people a framework to be able to experience the trails in Moab and not have to worry if they were going to get left behind.
A bunch of guys just showing up in Moab to go wheeling is great for people that already know each other. It's not great if you have any hope to get new people involved in the website and the hobby as a whole. It actually strikes me as a little cliquish.
Beyond all that, there are also good reasons to go through the permitting process. As backwards as it sounds, the anti-access groups get a lot of leverage to close down trails with the argument no one is using them. Permits are one of the best ways the BLM can show the trails are being used.
Agreed, as much as we dislike the BLM it does help in our case. This is why I have brought people with me to introduce them to the group, it’s very friendly and inviting even if you don’t drive a square.Blazer Bash started out as a bunch of CK5 guys hanging out in Moab. Frankly it wasn't that great. My first trip there I had only been on CK5 a year and didn't know anyone except @B_to_C who drove his truck out too. We showed up on Friday morning and didn't have a clue where we were going. We just found the group at City Market and about 5 minutes after we got there, trucks started leaving. Didn't have any idea what trails were being run so we just jumped in with our K5 loaded full of our luggage. Turns out we were doing Hell's Revenge. Needless to say that was quite an eye opener.
That experience is what motivated me to jump in and help Steve with the event. As a new person I learned how intimidating it is to show up for something like that and not have any idea what going on. I felt like the little lost puppy just following the other dogs around trying to make sure I didn't get left out. I always felt like Blazer Bash could be an opportunity to give people a framework to be able to experience the trails in Moab and not have to worry if they were going to get left behind.
A bunch of guys just showing up in Moab to go wheeling is great for people that already know each other. It's not great if you have any hope to get new people involved in the website and the hobby as a whole. It actually strikes me as a little cliquish.
Beyond all that, there are also good reasons to go through the permitting process. As backwards as it sounds, the anti-access groups get a lot of leverage to close down trails with the argument no one is using them. Permits are one of the best ways the BLM can show the trails are being used.
Or we just show up and hang out with some friends like regular people. (Free americans)

Off Road Design is my friend.
I just pictures ORD as a church.that's how we roll
That's my church and I donate often for my personal mental health and well being.
Event or not, I'll be in moab next year with a few friends and their rigs.

Well said ScottBlazer Bash started out as a bunch of CK5 guys hanging out in Moab. Frankly it wasn't that great. My first trip there I had only been on CK5 a year and didn't know anyone except @B_to_C who drove his truck out too. We showed up on Friday morning and didn't have a clue where we were going. We just found the group at City Market and about 5 minutes after we got there, trucks started leaving. Didn't have any idea what trails were being run so we just jumped in with our K5 loaded full of our luggage. Turns out we were doing Hell's Revenge. Needless to say that was quite an eye opener.
That experience is what motivated me to jump in and help Steve with the event. As a new person I learned how intimidating it is to show up for something like that and not have any idea what going on. I felt like the little lost puppy just following the other dogs around trying to make sure I didn't get left out. I always felt like Blazer Bash could be an opportunity to give people a framework to be able to experience the trails in Moab and not have to worry if they were going to get left behind.
A bunch of guys just showing up in Moab to go wheeling is great for people that already know each other. It's not great if you have any hope to get new people involved in the website and the hobby as a whole. It actually strikes me as a little cliquish.
Beyond all that, there are also good reasons to go through the permitting process. As backwards as it sounds, the anti-access groups get a lot of leverage to close down trails with the argument no one is using them. Permits are one of the best ways the BLM can show the trails are being used.