If they're that cheap, let this deal go, and get your $$$ **** together. Get a grand or two in the bank before you go buying stuff you ain't going to use anytime soon.
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CRAP!! moral delemma, need input.
- Thread starter K5dreamer
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If they're that cheap, let this deal go, and get your $$$ **** together. Get a grand or two in the bank before you go buying stuff you ain't going to use anytime soon.
84CUCV
3/4 ton status
K5dreamer
1/2 ton status
yeah, my major problem is i live in a "developed" area. not many junkyards, and not lots of truck parts at that. Almost everything I ever find remotely close to me is either expensive as all hell, or in New England, California, or Arizona. So Im definatly budgeting things. I got the D60 axle, picking it up on wednsday, decided to pass on the D70 due to everyones advice, and will most likely go with a DRW 14bff later because im sure i can even find one of those around here. or in the carolinas 
somewhere within reasonable driving distance. and will likely order a 4in lift kit from someone online and use that to remedy the dangerously worn out springs on the truck. Its just a matter of finding some that are approved for the weight of the diesel. Honestly, now that ive got the D60, the hardest things to find around here will be the tires to fit the H1 beadlocks. 
after the axles/suspension/tires/rims are sorted out, i figure ill wait a while before trying to do the manual NV4500 swap, might do a turbo install in the meantime though
somewhere within reasonable driving distance. and will likely order a 4in lift kit from someone online and use that to remedy the dangerously worn out springs on the truck. Its just a matter of finding some that are approved for the weight of the diesel. Honestly, now that ive got the D60, the hardest things to find around here will be the tires to fit the H1 beadlocks. after the axles/suspension/tires/rims are sorted out, i figure ill wait a while before trying to do the manual NV4500 swap, might do a turbo install in the meantime though
Why use a dually 14bolt? If you want to run the H1's with no spacers, go with the D70HD with SRW 14bolt hubs.
Parts are more common.
and you can get deeper gears for the 70 
K5dreamer
1/2 ton status
well, for now, my plan is just to run 4.10 gears, i might move up to 4.56's but only plan on running a 37in tire, maybe 39.5's if they are easier to come by in my location.
From what ive read online the only major benifit to the D70HD is more ground clerance, and deeper gears, which i wont need. Because my rig will still need to be highway driveable.
The 14bff generally seems to be accepted as being just as strong as the D70HD, has the pinion support that the D70 lacks, has MUCH easier setup with adjustable preload adjusters, and as stated, they are as common as a hair on a dog. The dually 14bff with SRW hubs will also match the DRW D60 for width. Cheap cheap detroit locker, Aftermarket support is greater, swapping to disks is just as easy, and its a GM part.
not to mention finding one cheap should also be easy. I was basically look at 200 for the D70HD, with drum brakes, Finding a DRW 14bff for 100 shouldnt be hard, and then i can do the disk brake swap for roughly what i would have paid for the D70HD.
I mean, am i missing something?
Please, if im wrong about something here, or missing some important facts, educate me. Ive been reading on pirate, here, jeep forums, random google search results. and pretty much the above has been my findings.
From what ive read online the only major benifit to the D70HD is more ground clerance, and deeper gears, which i wont need. Because my rig will still need to be highway driveable.
The 14bff generally seems to be accepted as being just as strong as the D70HD, has the pinion support that the D70 lacks, has MUCH easier setup with adjustable preload adjusters, and as stated, they are as common as a hair on a dog. The dually 14bff with SRW hubs will also match the DRW D60 for width. Cheap cheap detroit locker, Aftermarket support is greater, swapping to disks is just as easy, and its a GM part
. not to mention finding one cheap should also be easy. I was basically look at 200 for the D70HD, with drum brakes, Finding a DRW 14bff for 100 shouldnt be hard, and then i can do the disk brake swap for roughly what i would have paid for the D70HD.
I mean, am i missing something?
Please, if im wrong about something here, or missing some important facts, educate me. Ive been reading on pirate, here, jeep forums, random google search results. and pretty much the above has been my findings.
DRW 14bff + SRW Hubs = 75"
DRW D60 Front = 77"
D70HD + SRW Hubs = 77"
Like I said before: You need a D70HD with SRW 14bff hubs if you want to use H1's with no spacers, and not recenter them
K5dreamer
1/2 ton status
jms - oh no worries, no jack stand queen here, drove the truck today, driving it up to get the axle this week, then storing the axle in the shed until i get the lift and rear axle. Then ill call in some favors, buy a few cases of beer, and have my dad and brother come over and try and knock it out as fast as possible. Then plan a four wheelin and campin trip to do a shake down cruise and celebrate the upgrade 
71chevy4x4 - well crap...... ive been reading that the DRW 14bff with SRW hubs was the same width as the D60, and the same width as the D70HD with SRW hubs. time to do more internet searching.
71chevy4x4 - well crap...... ive been reading that the DRW 14bff with SRW hubs was the same width as the D60, and the same width as the D70HD with SRW hubs. time to do more internet searching.
don't have much to say about width but as far as strength if you are only running 40s at most. Both axles will just laugh at that.
K5dreamer
1/2 ton status
crap crap crap.... thats a monkey wrench in the plans...... a 14bff may be easy enough to find around here, but a D70HD would not be. Im lookin at a matched set with the same mileage, same gears, all that jazz...... crap crap crap. well, ive been trying to sell some stuff on craigslist, i guess i can drop the prices to go ahead and earn some quick cash to offset the cost of the new axles, im willing to take the hit on my sale items to have the peace of mind regarding having the right axles in hand. Id rather not have to drive the truck up to jersey multiple times for parts if i can get em in one trip. Thats a significant chunk of change for fuel. well... off to craigslist to try and sell some stuff. wish me luck.
DEMON44
Low-Tech Redneck
and you can get deeper gears for the 70
this is true true true. a bud ran 7.17s under his pickup for a long time.
one of my blazers has a D70HD with DRW 60 and i am running hummer beadlocks on 42's; current gearing is 4.10's, but i am planning on going 5.86. my other blazer is running 14 bolt with SRW 60 and 39.5 pitbull's on 16's; current gearing is 5.38.
then i have the parts to build a truggy; axles will be DRW 60 and D70HD with 5.86's in it also.
YZEATER
1/2 ton status
that's not a good deal. wait for a better one.
K5dreamer
1/2 ton status
already comitted to the D60, and ive got some sales lined up for tomorrow which should give me another $460 cash. He only wants $165 for the D70HD. guess you jersey guys think thats pretty normal, or too much, for the rest of us, thats a pretty good deal.
K5dreamer
1/2 ton status
these are both DRW axles from a 4x4 dually K30.
For the 14bff there are three different axles.
narrowest - DRW axle from a cab and chassis truck
narrow - SRW axle... well, same axle width and axles but wider flange mounting.
Normal - DRW axle.
wide - late model DRW axle from... i think.... 88 and up dually pickups with IFS.
widest - D70HD DRW axle
just crazy wide - D70HD DRW axle with SRW 14bff hubs.
somewhere between normal and wide is the 14bff from 1 ton G-van applications.
But as stated, to get a rear axle the same width as the DRW D60 front, youre looking at a D70HD with SRW hubs.
Fabrimacator21
1/2 ton status
Can't beleive I'm the only one to say this but... buy the d60 and d70 as a pair and sell the 60 for a few hundred profit. Build yourself a d70 front just like the dude in the thread you posted did. He's saying 700 bucks with shipping for everything.
Tell the guy you can get a 14 bolt for 100 bucks and they are just as strong and he might give you the 70 for 100 bucks.
Tell the guy you can get a 14 bolt for 100 bucks and they are just as strong and he might give you the 70 for 100 bucks.
