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Denatured Alcohol. Almost done painting door panels RED!! UPDATE Post#40

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Is this the right stuff?

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Home Depot has it:
http://www.homedepot.com/buy/paint/...strip/slx-denatured-alcohol-gallon-54699.html

I'm going to prep and dye my door panels today if I can find the stuff here in town, if not then I will have to make a 50 mile trip to the nearest city to get some :doah:

There are a couple small hardware stores here in town, but I'm not sure what they have yet...
 
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When I went to get the SEM paint, they recommended at that store that I use this stuff for prep:

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PPG Wax and Grease Remover DX330

Pretty nasty stuff. I'm thinking of returning it since I haven't even opened it yet. I just read the back and it says:

DO NOT USE ON FIBERGLASS OR PLASTIC PARTS. APPLICATION ON THESE SURFACES CAN GENERATE STATIC BUILD-UP, WHICH CAN RESULT IN FLASH FIRE

It contains Naphtha which is highly toxic and flammable. Need the heavy duty personal protective equipment with this stuff. So I'm thinking my little 1 car garage with a gas heater probably isn't vented well enough... :doah: and I don't have a NIOSH-approved air purifying respirator with the appropriate chemical cartridges... :doah:

I think I'll just stick with something a little more simple like denatured alcohol for cleaning my plastic door panels... :doah::whistle:

gonna make some phone calls as soon as I finish my coffee :thumb:
 
trust me, nothing degreases like denatured... all the prep-sol's, etc tend to just be slower working degreasers... so you have time to work....

just make sure your doing a true damp towel/dry towel... don't let the area air dry at all, make sure your drying it with your dry towel...

i've found the safest way to do plastic, heavily armor-alled panels is to wash with soap and water, repeat using a scuff pad, rinse thoroughly. let dry... damp/dry with denatured twice... paper towels work well...

most hardware stores will carry denatured.. NOT to be confused with rubbing alcohol...
 
Ryoken, do you know much about that DX330? This is what the auto paint guy told me to use before I paint the panels. I think I'm gonna return it though, it wasn't cheap and it looks like brutal stuff.
 
I've used it, it works... but like I said, I'm not a fan of anything other than denatured... it's pure, doesn't have all kinds of bs in it like all the other degreasers...
 
oh, and for the record... keep in mind, these guys are salesman.. they RARELY have any firsthand knowledge of products other than what the literature tells them.... and they are usually covering their butts if a warranty comes up... many parts guys have been known to be like this too over the years....
 
vastly different product.. as a few in here have found out the hard way...
 
it's a very common product.. I'm always surprised when someone has trouble finding it... almost every hardware store I've been in had it...
 
Ryoken, correct me if im wrong, but i thought i recalled you saying just recently, i think in cheifs thread that nothing cuts better than lacquer thinner :dunno:
 
Nope, nothing in this small town of 2000 people. There are a couple hardware stores but they say they don't have it...

The roads are kinda nasty today, we got a dump of snow about 6 inches so I'm going to wait until I go back to work tomorrow to get the denatured.

I will try to get a thread going about what I'm going to do. I'm restoring my door panels using red SEM with black accents. Something different than what I've seen on here. I was hoping to get this done on my day off today but it will have to wait until next week now :rolleyes: oh well. Stay tuned...


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Could i dye my gray door panels tan doing this? Prolly iffy but itd ve nice to have everything tan and not just door panels ve gray lol. Or id have no roblem doing black... Im def watching :D
 
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Ryoken, correct me if im wrong, but i thought i recalled you saying just recently, i think in cheifs thread that nothing cuts better than lacquer thinner :dunno:
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correct... but there's a big dif between what cuts grease/crud, wax, and what "removes"...

i'll leave plastic and primed metal out of my explanation here for you to make it simple...

when your dewaxing a boat, which is gelcoat, and impervious to any solvent, meaning it won't soften, etc, etc... you can use alcohol, and in a pinch you can use lacquer thinner or even acetone, the KEY difference is, with acetone or thinner, there is much more of a chance of them leaving trace contamination when done... alcohol it won't happen due to the purity, as opposed to the others which have more "ingredients" in them...

plastics and metals are a whole different game due to potentials for eating into the surfaces, etc... no way in the world you'll prep a freshly primed panel for paint with thinner, you'd be asking for trouble...

same with plastic..... sometimes you can get away with a quickie with thinner, but that's a 50/50 on whether it eats into it, depending on the plastic...
 
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Nope, nothing in this small town of 2000 people. There are a couple hardware stores but they say they don't have it...

The roads are kinda nasty today, we got a dump of snow about 6 inches so I'm going to wait until I go back to work tomorrow to get the denatured.

I will try to get a thread going about what I'm going to do. I'm restoring my door panels using red SEM with black accents. Something different than what I've seen on here. I was hoping to get this done on my day off today but it will have to wait until next week now :rolleyes: oh well. Stay tuned...


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i cannot stress enough how important dewaxing in these cases is... plastic door panels are NOTORIOUS for fisheyeing... and that's a big pain to deal with... you cannot degrease enough.. follow what i said, couple soapy washes, then a couple denatured's before you spray...
 
And you should have paint that is specially made for plastic. Which I think is available in a spray bomb. Or use a addhesion promoter first.
 
pretty sure he's using SEM Colorcoat... nice product...
 
Weird..here I can buy Denatured Alcohol just about anyplace--Walmart,most depertment stores and every paint store and home center has it,along with laquer thinner,MEK,Acetone,and Xlylene,among other things!...When I used to mix auto paints ,the SEM and Mar-Hyde vinyl dye stuff used to reccomend washing down the items with laquer thinner,fast drying..but that was 15+ years ago,maybe they changed their reccomendations since then...most of what I knew about auto paint has become obsolete,heck,they dont even sell laquer or many of the acrylic enamels I used to mix anymore!..
 
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