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Deuling's 1985 K5. "Restart thread on post #8415"

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Deuling said:
Was also super cool working with my dad for a bit. Don't get that very often.
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Quoted for truth. Doesn't happen as much as it used to. But when it does it is great!

I like how those look. Can't say I've ever seen something like that done. But I haven't seen or researched a lot of cages.

As a whole that cage is turning out great Adam. Great job!
 
dabomb6608 said:
Quoted for truth. Doesn't happen as much as it used to. But when it does it is great!

I like how those look. Can't say I've ever seen something like that done. But I haven't seen or researched a lot of cages.

As a whole that cage is turning out great Adam. Great job!
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I searched when I got home from work for some ideas, and couldn't find any that I liked.

Then after stairing at things for a while.... Came up with this and I love it.

Thanks a bunch by the way. Its been alot of fun :thumb:
 
ryoken said:
I like em.. do they go over to the B-hoop?
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Yah.

They hit just below the horizontal bars that run from b to c pillar.

I wanted to put them in the same joint as those, but if i move them up, the shoulder strap adjuster would be "IN" the seat. So its gotta be a little lower.

They hit just below this joint on the B pillar.

 
I guess I have been misinformed on how to mount harnesses. I thought you wanted them a bit low to hold you down... But I guess you want them within 20 degrees of horizontal so you don't compress your spine/break your collar bone in a crash.....


Think ill just add something like this instead of wasting the time and tube I already made.

Or is it unnecessary?

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Your harnesses go through your seat. That is going to set up the angle above the shoulders. Unless the holes are just fabric supported.

The lap belt holds you down. Shoulder straps hold you back with do down force.
 
ktmoutfront said:
Your harnesses go through your seat. That is going to set up the angle above the shoulders. Unless the holes are just fabric supported.

The lap belt holds you down. Shoulder straps hold you back with do down force.
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Hmm that's true, it has bars under the straps in the seat so it really wouldn't change anything.... Is this an example of "people on pirate are way too picky"....?
 
Web racers. This was true before the common use of highback modern seats. My dad used to build race cars and dune buggies in the 60s and 70s. Then they used the fiberglass low back seats, so it was important.

For your aplication, I would not wory about it. If it was a race vehicle of some kind, then maybe still. The cross bars in the seats may not hold up to a 100mph crash. But then the seats brobably would not either if those bars fail.
 
Cool. I won't bother then. I'll tack it all in tonight.

I have 21 days to get this thing done and to the dunes for memorial weekend. That may result in not finishing the front of the cage until after. Which isn't a big deal.
 
I remember dealing when we built my buddies cage to NHRA spec.

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I believe that the shoulder straps should be even with your shoulders, or close, because in the event of a wreck, if the straps are lower than your shoulders, they will pull down on your shoulders and compress the discs in your back.

That's just what I've read, I don't have any actual excperience with anything other than a regular shoulder harness or lap belt.

ETA: MRAP's have 4 point harnesses and the shoulder belts are mounted at shoulder level. I've messed with those, so I guess I could say I have limited experience.
 
I know what everyone says is "right".


With wades comment about the bar in the seat, it makes the "right" way to do it kind of pointless.


In a seat like the pic skunked posted, it's totaly different because the seat doesn't have a built in bar that the strap will sit on.
 
I'm not saying that what you're doing is right or wrong, just trying to give some insight on why others might say you have to move the bars up.
 
Sounds like it depends on the seats then? Can you still get seats without support built in??
 
85 Jimmy said:
I'm not saying that what you're doing is right or wrong, just trying to give some insight on why others might say you have to move the bars up.
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Yah I understand. Im just thinking its an old "tradition" to do it that way because of how the old seats wouldn't have had built in support. And people just continue to say that's the way to go.
 
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