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Deuling's 1985 K5. "Restart thread on post #8415"

Lol what are you gonna cut the kids arms off or something and weld them back on! Lol

Lol. In Horton I have cheapie 4 points they work just fine with a car seat. Its kind of a lap belt only deal but they worked just fine with sawyers car seat in Moab when he was 4 months old. And when you get into booster seats they work awesome
 
Adam, I think you are good with your plan. And as others have described, the "proper" mounting position is only important in two instances. One is where there isn't support built into the seat where the strap passes through, and the other, even with the support, is if you plan on doing a head on collision at hyper speeds. In that case, the load pulling the traps forward by your body flying forward could force the strap to "rip" downward through the seat and allow you to move further forward. Since you have supported seats and a seriously worst case of a 60mph + 60mph head on collision, I think you are good to go.
 
Since you have supported seats and a seriously worst case of a 60mph + 60mph head on collision, I think you are good to go.

So you would be willing to hit something at 120 mph with this current design despite the recommendations of the regulating authorities?
 
If you looked at how those seats are built and what they're built out of you would change your thinking on the shoulder belt mounting height.

All the info is in this thread now but I don't trust the seats themselves personally
 
If you looked at how those seats are built and what they're built out of you would change your thinking on the shoulder belt mounting height.

All the info is in this thread now but I don't trust the seats themselves personally

Its just hard for me to believe that these things can sell for $450 a piece new and that the frames aren't strong. Im not saying your wrong at all, and i know you have way more experience. Have you ever seen one fail Brandon?

There are few people on the interwebs that I take advice credibly from. And those are ones with real experience, not web wheeling experience alone. So i like to get good advice from real experience.


So you would be willing to hit something at 120 mph with this current design despite the recommendations of the regulating authorities?

Dude chill out. You've done nothing but come in here and complain and make negative comments.

The blazer doesnt do 120 Mph. Hell with 4.56s and 33s i probably wont even ever go over 65 on the expressway. Let alone in the sand.

Im building a weekend wheeler, not a race car. Im not going to be hucking this thing 30 feet in the air.......
 
And I even got fancy and made a video :whistle:

(note that the seat is not bolted down, just bolts ran in by hand, not tightened, so excuse the sloppy seat)

 
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Dude chill out. You've done nothing but come in here and complain and make negative comments.

The blazer doesnt do 120 Mph. Hell with 4.56s and 33s i probably wont even ever go over 65 on the expressway. Let alone in the sand.

Im building a weekend wheeler, not a race car. Im not going to be hucking this thing 30 feet in the air.......

4 things:

1.) I believe he was talking about head-on highway collisions (60+60=120MPH). Prolly not a high concern for this rig (I'd venture a guess that your setup is going to do much nicer than my stock seat belts), but always something to think about.

2.) Are you getting any welding spatter on that rear seat?

3.) I'm getting a copyright error trying to watch your film clip. :doah:

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4.) This truck is awesome! :thumb:

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4 things:

1.) I believe he was talking about head-on highway collisions (60+60=120MPH). Prolly not a high concern for this rig (I'd venture a guess that your setup is going to do much nicer than my stock seat belts), but always something to think about.

2.) Are you getting any welding spatter on that rear seat?

3.) I'm getting a copyright error trying to watch your film clip. :doah:

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4.) This truck is awesome! :thumb:

1. I dont think it works that way, I watched mythbusters one time.

2. Idk, I dont really care because they are used and already have holes and bad spots.

3. Idk about that one. Works fine on my computer and ipod :dunno:

4. Thank you :D
 
1. I dont think it works that way, I watched mythbusters one time.

Wait...you don't think that you'll feel a 120MPH impact if you are driving 60MPH and you hit someone traveling 60MPH in the opposite direction? I gotta have an explanation for that... :dunno::popcorn:


And "I watched mythbusters one time" does NOT cut it... :rolleyes:
 
Wait...you don't think that you'll feel a 120MPH impact if you are driving 60MPH and you hit someone traveling 60MPH in the opposite direction? I gotta have an explanation for that... :dunno::popcorn:


And "I watched mythbusters one time" does NOT cut it... :rolleyes:

It was kind of a joke. Im not sure. But what if I hit a car doing 60 while in the stock seat belts that didnt lock???

I think ill be 99% safer than what it was....
 
It was kind of a joke. Im not sure. But what if I hit a car doing 60 while in the stock seat belts that didnt lock???

I think ill be 99% safer than what it was....

Definitely. (I believe I did say that, no? :dunno:)

As for what would happen with stock belts...Yikes. I do not like them, Sam-I-Am. They have a mind of their own.

My Blazer (which I do not drive :rolleyes:) has a nice set of 1998ish seat belts. They actually lock up when they're supposed to, and they DON'T lock up when they aren't supposed to. Really nice. It may be worth upgrading my other trucks someday. :dunno:
 
So you would be willing to hit something at 120 mph with this current design despite the recommendations of the regulating authorities?

Hell of a lot better than the stock belts. Im not "willing" to hit anything at any speed. My point is that Deuling is good to go with his original design.
 
Definitely. (I believe I did say that, no? :dunno:)

As for what would happen with stock belts...Yikes. I do not like them, Sam-I-Am. They have a mind of their own.

My Blazer (which I do not drive :rolleyes:) has a nice set of 1998ish seat belts. They actually lock up when they're supposed to, and they DON'T lock up when they aren't supposed to. Really nice. It may be worth upgrading my other trucks someday. :dunno:

Ive been in a crash in a tahoe at 55 mph hitting a car going the same in the opposite direction at the same speed. Car spun out on a big curve, lady driving the tahoe I was in cut it to go into the ditch, car came in and hit us on the driver side. I was directly behind the driver. I got the brunt of the impact. Cracked a rib, had some nasty seat belt rash on my neck. But i walked away from it.

Its weird when your brain turns real life into slow motion in a moment like that :whistle:
 
And i guess my video has copyright issues because I had music playing in the background. WTF.... How do people make videos with music nowadays?
 
Might as well derail to the max! You know, now that i think of it, if there was a 60+60 head on, all things being equal, you would both stop as if you hit a brick wall. No? You would both come to the same stand still maybe? Either way, I dont think you have anything at all to worry about, but i seem to remember one thing from when i worked in a sand rail shop. It went something alon the lines of, in a wreck the pressure of you flying forward could cause the belts to rip downward through the seat, then, the weight of you flying forward would be exerted downward on your spine. I just dont think thats something for you to worry about, as long as those seats actually do have some type of substantial bracing in there. Does that make sense?
 
Might as well derail to the max! You know, now that i think of it, if there was a 60+60 head on, all things being equal, you would both stop as if you hit a brick wall. No? You would both come to the same stand still maybe? Either way, I dont think you have anything at all to worry about, but i seem to remember one thing from when i worked in a sand rail shop. It went something alon the lines of, in a wreck the pressure of you flying forward could cause the belts to rip downward through the seat, then, the weight of you flying forward would be exerted downward on your spine. I just dont think thats something for you to worry about, as long as those seats actually do have some type of substantial bracing in there. Does that make sense?

Yup makes sense. I know its not the best way to do it. But shoot, if i get in a situation where it actually compresses my spine due to the seat bars failing.... i think i will be in alot more hurt than the fact i compressed my back some.... More like ill be dead because my neck snapped.....

It is! Its an indescribable feeling!

Yah that ****s weird. But real. I remember it like it was yesterday.
 
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