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Going to try to give ryoken a break by educating myself here,

that is exactly the color. It is called GM cordova brown. I think it cam on 77-80. I have some old left over paint for it from back in 1987 when it was repainted. I guess the newer stuff now days may be better.

So to paint this I would need primer, single stage urethane metallic and then a clear.

The current paint on the K5 is cracking. So I would need to strip the paint to metal. This is going to be a big job.
 
wazzabie said:
that is exactly the color. It is called GM cordova brown. I think it cam on 77-80. I have some old left over paint for it from back in 1987 when it was repainted. I guess the newer stuff now days may be better.

So to paint this I would need primer, single stage urethane metallic and then a clear.

The current paint on the K5 is cracking. So I would need to strip the paint to metal. This is going to be a big job.
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fock no.. not that it can't be done, but a base/clear job is far superior in ease of app...

either converted single stage or base, depending on availability in the line of paint you want... converter turns single stage into a form of basecoat... but most colors are available in base these days...
 
y5mgisi said:
Thats what i keep thinking...
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it is, what you make of it... you can spend 5 grand on materials if ya wanted, but amazing improvements can also be had for under $500 and a couple rolls of DA paper too... not a metallic, but something solid...
 
Oh i hear ya! I could tell you my plans but they wouldnt matter cause they would just change tomorrow! Bottom line is i have 3 trucks that need a piant job and/or rust repair. Trying to prioritise has become the real issue as they are all pretty equal in their needs. Except the Blazer. It would be the easiest to paint but its also in the best shape so putting it at the front of the line makes it hard to start on that one. Would be the best instant gratification though. The trouble their though is that only two of the four trucks i am FOR SURE keeping. The Russet 78 GMC and the Blue 90 suburban. So i would like to do one of those two but they will both kill the budget in paint alone... Let alone tools, primer, primer, clear, etc etc...So, nothing in the immediate future no matter what but i might as well start gathering knowledge now right?
 
I'm spot priming the CC where it needs it and overcoating the whole thing a different shade of red... have a gallon of 2K primer for it already... so I'll just get a gal of red/orange initially.. heck, I'm already getting new doors for it.. i'll get another gal down the road a bit... might as well get painting on the rest of it too.... :haha:
 
ryoken said:
fock no.. not that it can't be done, but a base/clear job is far superior in ease of app...

either converted single stage or base, depending on availability in the line of paint you want... converter turns single stage into a form of basecoat... but most colors are available in base these days...
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So the original paint was a single stage enamel metallic (cordova brown)

I've decided I'm only going to paint the areas that I will be working on. The new OEM Fenders still in EDP Black, rockers and rear quarters. I will leave some of the original paint. I'm ok with old scratches in the paint.

So my options are:
1. primer (dupont's nason 2k urethane primer), converted single stage metallic
2. primer (dupont's nason 2k urethane primer), base metallic

Why would I not go with a single stage Acrylic Enamel Metallic?

I would like to be able to paint touch-ups if I scrap the paint real bad.
 
for all the above mentioned reasons.. it's a nightmare to paint and it holds up like chit, unless it has clear over it... any metallic should be sprayed in basecoat.. and touchup is easiest, I said all that..
 
Im confused about one thing, how did these trucks come from the factory? They werent base clear were they? Its just better to do them that way now a days right?
 
correct, the earlier ones where all straight enamel, they started phasing in base/clear in the mid 80's... base/clear is just a ridiculously better choice for a metallic since introduced... thus one of the reason's converter was made/introduced, for collision shops to deal with all the single stage enamel metallics that where out...
 
y5mgisi said:
Alright, whats a converter?!
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Without even reading anything before since the subject is paint and body:
A converter is a chemical that you brush on light rust and it will convert it to a different kind of oxide that is more stable and most times you can paint right over it.
If you have rust scaling you want to remove any lose rust and bring it down to solid steel, the converter will take care of the rest.
 
y5mgisi said:
Alright, whats a converter?!
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converter turns single stage paint into a form of basecoat... it's not exactly like base, but it at least let's you lay out metallics a bit more like basecoat... it's not as thin as base, but it applies more like a lacquer than a wet enamel or uro...

a regular basecoat formula for that color is most desirable, but in a pinch for odd colors that only have a single stage enamel formula, there is converter at least...
 
If I use a converted single stage for the metallic I would not need a clear. Could I sand the converted single stage?

I really don't want to put down a clear coat.
 
no, it needs clear over the top of it once converted...
 
Excellent! Thanks so much! So when i do my paint on the blue 90 burb. It's light blue metallic with clear. I will have to strip that whole thing to metal... Then it goes, ryoken green, 2k, base, clear right? Will the base clear be specific kinds such as enamel or uro? This is actually one of the things I'm having the hardest time with is what type of paint originaly came on my truck and what type I'm going to put back on.
 
uro clear... most of those color's do have a standard uro base formula...
 
So when i go to the paint place my conversation will go something like, "Hello sir, i would like a gallon of 2k primer, a gallon of urathane base in this color, and a gallon of clear prease." And that would do the job?
 
yes.... it is manny line thing tho on base.. it all depends on which manny you choose whether it's Dupont, Glasurit, etc, and which "line" of paint your using too... chromabase vs omni vs 54 line and such...

some of the economy lines may only list a single stage.. but your paint supply guy can walk you thru the options among the manny's he sells.. just tell him you want that color in a base/clear...
 
That teaches me to read before I speak.:doah:
Although what I said is true, it was unrelated:D
ryoken said:
converter turns single stage paint into a form of basecoat... it's not exactly like base, but it at least let's you lay out metallics a bit more like basecoat... it's not as thin as base, but it applies more like a lacquer than a wet enamel or uro...

a regular basecoat formula for that color is most desirable, but in a pinch for odd colors that only have a single stage enamel formula, there is converter at least...
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