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Re: Pit Bull Rocker™ Extreme Off Road Tires

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Don't know why so many people are giving you guys a hard time...

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Because nothing gets people on this site going like a "which tire is better" - discussion, and usually a good fraction of participants are not even in the market for dropping a grand on said tires. Nothing new here, except with the twist of trying to extract a "demo" set of tires for "testing", all in the name of CK5 and "credibility". All a bit unsophisticated, I might add.

eldiablo, too bad this got aired out in your thread. Then again, nothing beats a good bitch post on this site for publicity.

Steve, I think this thread unfortunately shows that this forum needs a firm "Code of Conduct".
 
Re: Pit Bull Rocker™ Extreme Off Road Tires

Well said, Michael, well said. People on this site need to grow up a bit when it comes to treating vendors with respect, especially when the owner of the site potentially loses money because of it.
 
Re: Pit Bull Rocker™ Extreme Off Road Tires

I completely understand about not wanting to spend $1000 on a new set of tires that are new on the market. I'm from the "Show Me" state...so I have no problem with people waiting for proof of our tires' performance.

That being said. Magazines are testing our tires as we speak...and I assume that the articles will be out December, January or February. I do not know what these articles are going to say, and I did not place ads in their magazines...so there's no incentive for them to lie about our tires.

That being said...it doesn't mean that I'm not going to place ads in their magazines in the future. It just means that they're not going to write anything favorable simply because we placed an ad.

We want honest opinions and results...otherwise we cannot improve our products...and that benefits no one.

Our Rocker was used in the NEUROC Rock Crawl Competition a month ago and the guy using them won that event. You can go to their website or contact www.ok4wd.com and ask for Jim and he can tell you even more about it.

Plus...we have many sets of tires on rigs all over the country being tested on a daily basis. So far everyone has good things to say about the tires.

That's all I have for ya...wish I had more to tell you.
 
Just so you know...bias tires always have stiffer sidewalls than radial tires. It's just the way that it is...the key is to make a tire that you don't have to air down too far and will still provide traction, stability and not come off the rim...even without beadlocks.

Plus...bias tires flat spot. But generally I don't see this as a big issue in most areas of the country. Driving a mile or so should solve the problem.

Only testing will tell us if we've made a better tire.
 
Re: Pit Bull Rocker™ Extreme Off Road Tires

Hey, I live just down the road from Peoria, so I would like to see your display when I go to the truck show. Will the booth say Pitbull tires or does the parent company have a different name or? Thanks.
 
Re: Pit Bull Rocker™ Extreme Off Road Tires

Parent company is Tire Mart, Inc. We will have a large display at the show for Tire Mart products and Pit Bull. Just look for the banners. I don't think it's a huge huge show...so it shouldn't be a problem finding us. Let me know if you really think you are coming and I can send you some free passes. Just give me your address.
 
Re: Pit Bull Rocker™ Extreme Off Road Tires

Yea, I will be there, my company I am sure has a display there so I want to see that and I can check out your tires at the same time. Ill PM you my address, thanks!!!
 
Re: Pit Bull Rocker™ Extreme Off Road Tires

I always find myself entertained by what i read on the internet. I for one read reviews and ask questions about everything i want to buy before i spend a dime. I am too pessemistic to do otherwise.
I read all about the "great" BFG MT's. Now that i own a set i think the only great thing about them is the wear. Hardly any at all so far. Off road performance has been marginal compared to the same size X-Tarrains i used to own.

That being said i will probably buy the Pit-Bull tires next as long as two things happen.
<ul type="square"> [*]I read (mostly) positive reviews for them. [*]Eldiablo maintains his positive attitude about the new tires. From what i have seen he will /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif [/list]

A positive attitude and a little enthuasism will go a long way in this world and i for one hope that Pitt-Bull tires are all they are touted to be....and then some
 
Re: Pit Bull Rocker™ Extreme Off Road Tires

I appreciate the input. I too hope that our tires are as good as we think they are...but only time will tell.

And as for positive attitudes...you are dead right my friend. We've all been through good times and bad...and the difference between survivors and quitters is that a survivor never gives up hope and grits his teeth and plows through.

That being said...we all have those days where we want to say one thing, but say another to the hemmorhoids in this world.
 
Re: Pit Bull Rocker™ Extreme Off Road Tires

On the subject of the amazing expense of high quality tires, I always wondered what the profit margin is on tires. How much does a store make off of me when they sell me a 33" tire for $140? How about BFG. How much do they profit on a 33" tire.

I only ask this because I work with composites and some rubber. I know that it is cheap to mold products, even on the scale of a tire. The R&amp;D is expensive though.

Sorry to screw up the subject.

-Chris
 
Re: Pit Bull Rocker™ Extreme Off Road Tires

Are you kidding me? Please don't ask vendors how much profit they make, if you don't like buying tires drive on your rims. /forums/images/graemlins/shame.gif
 
Re: Pit Bull Rocker™ Extreme Off Road Tires

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On the subject of the amazing expense of high quality tires, I always wondered what the profit margin is on tires. How much does a store make off of me when they sell me a 33" tire for $140? How about BFG. How much do they profit on a 33" tire.

I only ask this because I work with composites and some rubber. I know that it is cheap to mold products, even on the scale of a tire. The R&amp;D is expensive though.

Sorry to screw up the subject.

-Chris

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a general question in the Garage might get you the answer your looking at or a search on yahoo or something.

oh and by the way, those tires look insane! /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif Cool name, cool look and I'm sure cool performance!


jakeslim
 
Re: Pit Bull Rocker™ Extreme Off Road Tires

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Wasn't trying to be a jerk. Just thinking out loud. Sorry. The answer that I anticipated was that there isn't much profit since there is a lot of competition in the tire market.

-Chris
 
Re: Pit Bull Rocker™ Extreme Off Road Tires

The larger places like 4WP, Desert Rat, NTW, et cetera make around 18% on TSLs. Smaller places that don't have the volume that sell for the same price as 4WP don't make much at all.

Places that make the tires have a lot of overhead from what I understand.
 
4wheel drive mag

The Feb edition has the tire and wheels information in it. There was a mistake on our listing. They accidentally listed one of our dealers rather than Pit Bull Tires' contact information.

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i have a quick question i would like answered.

you say on your site and in the info pack that the tires are agressive off road but quiter on road, when compared to simaler tires.

what do you consider simaler to each model?

like is the mudder being compared to say a bfg-mt, or a bogger?

is the all terrain compared to a bfg at, or ?

is the rocker compared to an iroc or?

just wondering dave
 
something like that

I don't want to type-cast our products by comparing them to specific competitor's tires. For two reasons:

1. I want to let our products speak for themselves and place themselves in the apex order of things based on their performance and not what we say we think they will do. Kind of the "forcing the square peg in the round hole'" scenario we wish to avoid. Our tires will define themselves as they are used in different applications.

2. I don't believe in talking about someone else's products, for many reasons. For one, people will make their own comparisons based on their experiences with certain tires they are used to using. You might think our tires compare to one brand, whereas someone else might say they compare to another. So what good would it do to create an artificial limitation on the perceptions of our tires by us comparing them to specific brands and models?
 
Jp Magazine March 2005

Jp magazine just came out with their tire review of our 35x1450-15 Rocker. Xtreme Off Road mag is coming out in the next two weeks with their review and I think that Four Wheeler's May edition, which comes out in March, will have their tire review.

My attitude is let them speak for themselves. The idea of having all of the different magazines test our tire was to get the people with experience...independent of our field testing and findings....to give their honest opinions. And the more people who test them, the more opinions there will be...but hopefully having five of the top magazines testing them, there will be some common experiences with and opinions about our tire. Some will probably contradict other's findings...but ultimately there will be some commonality in all of their findings.
 
ok i can under stand, but you do compare them to other tires buy saying they are quiter then simaler tires, so to make this comparisen you must atleast be comparing them to something.


just wondering as the tires look SUper agressive and kick ass. just wondering to what sould these be held up to.


i look forward to a review on the mudder :waytogo:
 
i hear ya

JP Mag said about the Rocker

"On the street, the Rockers ride suprisingly smooth and relatively quiet. We'd guesstimate the noise level to be only slightly louder than a BFG MT. While our abbreviated testing didn't allow for many highway miles, we can say that after spinning on hard granite all day long and severe throttling, the tread blocks looked brand new."

This is what I mean by not wanting to compare our tires to any specific make or model...but more of a category. Our tires are extremely aggressive...but they chose to compare the noise level to a BFG MT. But our tire is a hell of alot more aggressive than an MT.

See what I mean?

JP mag also said "The Rocker is a moderately priced, full-sized, high-survivability tire that's good for serious rock and sand use. Because of the tire's very flexible carcass and sidewall, we'd say bead locks are a necessity to get the most out of them. The tires worked about twice as good at 4psi as they did at 8 psi, so air them down."

Of course he was talking about Rock crawling and sand use...but you get the jist.
 
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