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Ordered up a front lockright!! (update, DONE, PICS!)

Re: Ordered up a front lockright!!

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TruTrac = expensive open dif

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as for LS difs in a daily driver, I wont even use them there
they are unpredictable enough to be dangerous

selectable...on the test flight with Don the other day he forgot to lock them in for a climb.
no thanks (until I go Mogs)
 
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TruTrac = expensive open dif

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as for LS difs in a daily driver, I wont even use them there
they are unpredictable enough to be dangerous

selectable...on the test flight with Don the other day he forgot to lock them in for a climb.
no thanks (until I go Mogs)

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Why do you say "unpredictable enough to be dangerous"?

Is it because of the throttle on oversteer because of the torque transfer to the outside? I always thought of that as a good thing. The only problem I have had was when we tried to use 1 brake on the back end of a FSAE car with a Torsen in the back. Under breaking it caused understeer because of the torque transfer to the outter wheel. 2 brakes in the rear solved the problem.

I have always found them to be predictable...but nothing is as predictable as a spool.

I am thinking of putting a TrueTrack in my 2wd s10...the only other thing I have been thinking about is the new e-locker from Eaton.
 
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I may well put a Lockright in my 2wd daily driver. I think they are more predictable than a posi. I've never been in a situation where the Posi unit got me out of trouble. Have been where being locked up sure did.
 
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your choices make no sense to me
if you are a torsen style fan why would you choose the Eaton when the Detroit e locker gives you a torsen style dif that locks on powering the solenoid.

as for why I do not like the unpredictable nature of LS difs,
when you really need vehicle control you do not know what the dif is going to do
that will equal a wreck

the only negative arund a detroit style locker is the backlash
the only way around that is a spool

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I have run these on the street and they are a pain. Are you always on the gas around a turn? Thats the only way it would not unlock. Wait till you drive it in the snow and go around a turn under power you mite as well have welded the spiders together its going to act the same. As for the true trac i never had a problem. I also ran one of the auburn pro series lockers i my DD and it worked great all the time. Held enough to smoke 39.5"s on the street and worked great out on the trail. The ls" was a little strange in the snow but it was managable. There is one thing that i just dont understand and thats theres always talk about gotta have cross over,1 ton diffs, so on and so on and then you waste $$$ on an entry level locker that was built for jeeps.
 
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Yeah, my Dana 60 front was built for jeeps, sure.

How about taking your stupidity somewhere else, and not in my thread talking trash about my choice of what I run on my equipment?

Any time you want to follow me and my friends down the trail with open diffs or whatever L/S units you choose, be my guest, you're more than welcome to join me, just make sure you're behind me so I can leave you there while the rest of us continue down the trail.
 
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That response just shows how one sided you are. This site is a place that someone can come read,learn and offer there thoughts. I was not trying to get under your skin just post my opinion. It seems to me that if anybody ever makes an opinion that doesn't agree with yours then they are wrong and you are right. Thats fine. I just wanted to give my opinion so other members could read and make up there own mind. And one other thing the things that i posted are from personal experience and close friends of mine. We just have not had much luck with the lock rite line. Good luck and hope it all works out for you.
 
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I . There is one thing that i just dont understand and thats theres always talk about gotta have cross over,1 ton diffs, so on and so on and then you waste $$$ on an entry level locker that was built for jeeps.

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Who's 1 side now? /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

Also, it's obvious that you have no clue what you're talking about, and you're suggesting that I build my truck a different way as a result.

If you indeed work at an off road shop, I'd certainly hope you get a better clue as to how the different types of differentials work, because, as stated above, a L/S unit is about as useless on the trail as a screen door on a submarine.

I'm all for allowing anyone to spout their opinion at any time, (that's the whole idea of a forum) but you've simply made some statements that don't make any sense at all.

It's like if I were to sit here and talk about fabrication, engineering, or roll cage design. Even though I understand the basic concept, when it comes to the actual work I have NO experience and in about 5 seconds I'd start to sound like a moron. That's why I wouldn't open my mouth in that situation, as an opinion is just about worthless if you haven't got a clue what you're talking about.

As to my front diff choice, if I was changing gears, I would have gone with a detroit. Otherwise, this will work just fine until it fails, and then If I feel the need, I'll put something else in it.
 
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your choices make no sense to me
if you are a torsen style fan why would you choose the Eaton when the Detroit e locker gives you a torsen style dif that locks on powering the solenoid.

as for why I do not like the unpredictable nature of LS difs,
when you really need vehicle control you do not know what the dif is going to do
that will equal a wreck

the only negative arund a detroit style locker is the backlash
the only way around that is a spool

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The Eaton is all internal (so I could run a cover with carrier preload bolts) and $100 less then the Electrack...those are the only 2 reasons I would choose it.

I would never put a detroit in a street truck because of that backlash you talk about...too jaring when you are trying to get into the throttle comming out of a corner.

I like the predictability of spools...I just can't justify the extra tire wear and the increase in turning radius.

Clutch packs only limit spin once you have already lost traction...case of too little to late.

Torsen type diffs send more power to the tire with more traction to keep you from loosing traction in the first place /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif...The s10 will almost never get wheeled (it is 2wd and has about 6" of ground clearance)...so I don't have to worry about the fact that a torsen type diff will never lock...but on the street I know of no better diff.
 
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Clutch packs only limit spin once you have already lost traction...case of too little to late.

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clutch packs put a set pressure against the side gears
once that pressure point is exceeded they are an open dif that is burning friction material
the more you increase the preload the more pressure it takes to release them
so it acts more like a spool but will suddenly unload at the worst time
not nice in a steering axle
snowy highway speeds with hubs locked are an adventure to steer with my Powerlok
you feed steering input in until the clutch pack lets go (over 1/4 turn of the steering wheel)
then countersteer to avoid spinning out

hard cornering the torsen can act like an open as the inside tire gets very light
 
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...in about 5 seconds I'd start to sound like a moron. That's why I wouldn't open my mouth in that situation

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ive yet to see a situation where you didnt feel obligated to open your mouth and give your two cents - unwanted or not.

Another comment- the last thing you should do is get on someones case thats criticizing the way you "build your truck"... If that aint the pot calling the kettle black, then I dont know what is. Anyone thats been around the truck forums for the last few years knows what you're all about tim.. frankly i dont think youre fooling anyone.

mike reeh
 
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