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Ryoken's Guide to Rust Treatment and Bodywork 101

Personally, from what im seeing, i would say what looks like needs to happen is the area out lined in greed needs be sectioned out. This way, the panel could drop down into place.

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after all day, I only got it a little better...I am about to say screw it and put the old one back on....
 
It is so frustrating that it is beyond my ability to cut a good quarter off of a truck up here and send it down to you. I dont know what good it would do but i wanna do it real bad!
 
after all day, I only got it a little better...I am about to say screw it and put the old one back on....

I need to get back in here... sorry.. what is the lining up prob? as mentioned earlier I think, in what order, and how you clamp the panel in place matters.... usually it's best to work from the middle outward for aligning... if it needs to move in, and wont, find out why and remedy it... don't be afraid to trim...
 
I need to get back in here... sorry.. what is the lining up prob? as mentioned earlier I think, in what order, and how you clamp the panel in place matters.... usually it's best to work from the middle outward for aligning... if it needs to move in, and wont, find out why and remedy it... don't be afraid to trim...

I drilled holes through the quarter and into the B Pillar in that spot that wont go in....I pulled the bottom outward towards me to the point that the pinch weld doesn't even come into play....I snugged it up with two sheet metal screws and thought I had it....
It's still sticking out about a quarter inch further than my door when my door is lined up with the rocker...
Not only does that bottom area not want to go in but what little it does go in it forces the lip that butts up against the door jamb forward so that the bottom 1/6 of the panel lip has about a 30 degree angle forward....when you look at it from the side looking in the door gap it looks like crap because the upper majority is a perfect 90 degrees and that bottom you can see the quarter lip jutting forward
 
Chief, probably won't help, but back off a little and take a couple of wider pics. What I am seeing is piecemeal, and I can't get a good grip on the problem.
 
Chief, probably won't help, but back off a little and take a couple of wider pics. What I am seeing is piecemeal, and I can't get a good grip on the problem.

will do tomorrow...it's in the garage right now...20% rain and I got 100% of it...not a cloud in the sky except over my house...got some raw metal rained on...
 
I welded all the holes up on the original panel and ground them down...gonna do a side-by-side comparison tomorrow and see if the old panel has the same issue down there in that spot....
 
And the answer is yes there was...look at this pic BEFORE I removed the quarter panel....this is what I am still seeing...see how the quarter is about 1/4 inch "taller" than the door...


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tomorrow find the obstruction and remedy it...

it would seem it is the B pillar itself....or maybe the rocker panel is wrong...when I shut the door with the quarter off, it perfectly mirrors the upper part of the pillar but the bottom part sticks out...
If I adjust the door bottom outward to match the pillar, then it has more than a half inch gap away from the rocker panel...
 
take a pic tomorrow with the qrter off, from a bit further away, describing the issue, and we'll figure out what needs to be done...
 
I don't know if these reveal anything but I just went out there and snapped them:

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there's nothing there obvious to me to stop the qrter... it has to be something on the qrter that needs trimming/tweaking.....
 
Guess I will start by clamping the quarter in the middle and fitting it "downward"...
it is supposed to be even with the rocker outer line isn't it? should be able to take a straight edge and have a continuous line down the rocker into the quarter?
:dunno:
 
after all day, I only got it a little better...I am about to say screw it and put the old one back on....


Chief,

I have an idea though I can't be sure from your pics...

When I hung my rear quarters (repros) I couldn't get them to line up initially. The problem I found was that the b-pillar was about 1/4" too high for the reproduction panel and prevented it from hanging correctly. Specifically, the "style line" that's about midway down the door (the part that comes to a point in this side profile) was misaligned so the panel would never sit flat. Here's a photo showing the side-view once I finally got it sorted out (from door jam, looking down passenger side towards rear)

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Check out my build thread starting at post #718. I realize the later model K5s are different, but there may still be a style line on the b-pillar that is not lining up correctly with the bedside. As I learned on mine, it's hopeless to try to get the panel aligned until you resolve that basic issue.

Hope this helps.

-G
 

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