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Several CK5 Vendors make the magazines! January 04 Fourwheeler

I, for one, am excited to see a real world wheelin truck on the cover. I have been a subscriber to every non-specific 4 wheelin Magazine since 1981 and still have all of the issues. Too many of the magazines have catered to what is the trailer queen show trucks and high dollar built trucks. I have recently learned that this "Cover Truck" is the wave of the future for Four Wheeler. They intend to cover more real world off road rigs and fewer of the show rigs. They have already mentioned in the Editors Forum the possibility of a Real Truck Challange, geared to something that is truly street legal and driviable everyday. I am also glad to see the market place finally opening up to us the "minority" wheelers. Guys with fullsize rigs doing something other than mud boggs. The market place has been focused on the Jeeps, Samurai's and Toyota's for too long and if this cover truck exposes the fact that fullsize rigs can be wheeled, then great. The fact that the article didn't mention CK5 is too bad, but thats not to say the owner may not have mentioned his affiliation with "our crowd" and it was omitted from the article. I know that they remove quite a bit of informatio for the sake of fitting it in. I am just glad to see a full size rig that is at least somewhat capable off road being on the cover and actually have more than one page of article. We have gotten our collective foot in the door, now we have to show the rest of the off roading world that fullsize is the only true way to go. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
 
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Who cares? It has no place being on the cover of a magazine. It has a front 10 bolt, is carburated, and only has 35" tires. Dan's rig, yours, Steve's, or Brent's (K5Drager) or even my rig as soon as I'm done with the current stage of buildup could absoultely put that rig to shame. Certainly not a show truck, but not exactly a hardcore trail machine either. Just a truck with a lift, hydro assist, lockers, tires, and some bumpers. That is not cover truck material.

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Ok since you now opened your mouth
What makes you think thatA truck that dosent have a manditory D60 isnt worth a cover shot... /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif
Everyones truck is there own work of art..I have a D44 with 38's and after the tranny swap if I break it I fix it..So f'ing what...Does it mean that any truck that is breakable not Mag worthy...
Again another reason to zip it before you open it..
 
It's not just missing the D60. It has false beadlock wheels, a carburator, and only 35" tires. There are MANY machines on here like Neils, Dan, and Brent, that have 1 ton axles with 35 spline outers, 39.5-42" tires, EFI, etc. Those are the rigs that I want to see on the cover. Granted it's a nice truck...but there are much nicer rigs that have had small pics in the mag that are much more worthy of the cover.
 
I am a loser and have been reading car and truck mags for a long time.Unfortunately a mag subscription is cheaper than building a car/truck so i read about it more than I participate. I always notice when the editors or writers mention how to get a car/truck in a mag they almost always say something to the effect of:
Its not just the parts on the car or timeslips or crawling ability. It has more to do with being at the right place at the right time with the right attitude.

Saying "my truck has these parts and is way cooler than a truck with those parts" to you neighbor isn't gonna get you in a magazine. You have to be at an event where there is a photographer, impress them enough that they take interest, have the time to take the pics, and do it all witha sense of humor, not a condescending(SP?) attitude.

That said, I am gonna go out and get a copy of Fourwheeler because I cancelled my subscription a while ago because I was sick of 44" tires under a chrome thingy with 24" of lift.

So Neil, if this post was a plan to get people to buy a copy of Fourwheeler, you have succeded at least once!
Congrats to you and whoever owns the cover truck,CK5 member or not.
 
4-Wheel and Off-road January 2004 has the Blazer Fest at Hollister Hills in it. So start looking for it.
 
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It's not just missing the D60. It has false beadlock wheels, a carburator, and only 35" tires. There are MANY machines on here like Neils, Dan, and Brent, that have 1 ton axles with 35 spline outers, 39.5-42" tires, EFI, etc. Those are the rigs that I want to see on the cover. Granted it's a nice truck...but there are much nicer rigs that have had small pics in the mag that are much more worthy of the cover.



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Ok does that make his truck less "manly" ...NO
Does it mean that it isnt up to YOUR PAR..Ha Ha So what..
So what you are saying is that if you Have a Carb then you are not a real truck worthy of a mag shot...HA then I guess that about 80% of CK5 isnt worthy HUH..
Also if you have ONLY 35" tires that isnt good enough,Again see above about the carb... /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

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I want to see on the cover.

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Then Write to them but I am 100% sure that many like to see the ave Truck in the mag too...We all started somewhere..(well of course we know that you started at the top. /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif)

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There are MANY machines on here like Neils, Dan, and Brent, that have 1 ton axles with 35 spline outers, 39.5-42" tires, EFI, etc

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Havent seen them but I am sure they are way BEEFY.. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

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Granted it's a nice truck.

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Again I sure it is..Havent got my issue yet..

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but there are much nicer rigs that have had small pics in the mag that are much more worthy of the cover.


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Again see the other post about it being the editers and photographers choice...As much as that hurts to say we know that is what it is all about... /forums/images/graemlins/k5.gif
 
Well said. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif As to those other rigs that I think would have good place taking the cover shot, I hope their owners write in.

I'm hoping I can finish my next stage of buildup so I can get myself in readers rides. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
But like somebody said it as a lot to do with attitude.. If you go in saying carbs,35, and 1/2 ton axles are crap.. Then you'll never get in.. /forums/images/graemlins/ignore.gif
 
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But like somebody said it as a lot to do with attitude.. If you go in saying carbs,35, and 1/2 ton axles are crap.. Then you'll never get in.. /forums/images/graemlins/ignore.gif

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Never said it was crap. It's a really nice truck. Just not cover material.
 
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Your saying it with out saying it...

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I think it's all in the interpretation.

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Give it a f'n break already /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
 
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Tim- Keep your pie hole shut. No one wants to read your posts anymore. Go away.

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Well:

Since each is entitled to their opinion and since this post was hijacked already:



A cover shoot should be something different, something ingenius, not just a bolt on of stuff and no a D60 is not a requirement, nor EFI or Big huge tires.
In my opinion we should see those nice unique inventions that work on the cover, anybody with a little money can buy all the good stuff and make a nice looking a truck, so you mean if they can afford a D60 and all the nice stuff then they should be able to buy their way to a cover?

BULL /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

I haven't seen this cover yet since I didn't have time, btu I am sick and tired of seing the same old [darn], laundry list of parts and poof it's in the mag.
And I am sick and tired of seing all these threads just to bitch about it.

And personnally if I ever get my [darn] in a mag, I will give credit where it's due, and I will definitely spread the word about CK5 and every where I can promote Full sizes.
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I agree with you totally. I just don't understand you guys sometimes. I never said it was crap. It's a nice rig. Its just that there are a lot of people building a lot of nice rigs out there. There's so many nice ones out there that I think are more worty of a cover shot that I just can't stand to see the sorta crap that has been on the cover lately.

This month was the best cover truck I have seen in a while though, but I still think FW can do better.

I just found out today that a friend of mine's rig was on the cover of Peterson's last year, December '02. He doesn't brag about it, he never even told me before. He's got a hell of a machine that he's spent years building and I'm glad to see that his rig made the cover. There are tons on here that have done the same thing. Steve Watson got mag coverage of his during TTC and it is pictured quite often, but I don't think he's ever got a cover shot. He definitely deserves it though. Steve Frisbe's rig definitely deserved to be on the cover. That thing was definitely unique despite being 1/2 ton until he sold it. There's just so many that I can think of...nice, well built, REAL trail rigs, especially on this site, that could be cover trucks. Sure, that one is nice and well on its way to getting to be a flawless trail machine. I wish I had a lot of the stuff that guy has. But either way, I just think that it's missing something that a cover truck SHOULD have. It doesn't have the unique touch that I want to see when I open my mailbox and get the mag out or look at it across from my registers at work. I want to see something truely special, and that's the only reason I was disappointed this month.

Never said it was crap, never implied it, never meant that at all. I just was disappointed that I couldn't see something more of the vision that I've got for my truck. I have a shortbed truck too. Any time I see a shortbed Chevy truck on the front of a magazine, I am hoping to see a truck that I idolize as something to strive to be similar to. This rig just didn't do that for me at all despite being a nice rig. It looks like it's definitely on the way, though.

I don't see why I'm so wrong for thinking that Neil, the guy who started this thread, who I've seen his truck pictured this same publication before, can't get a cover shot when this camo shortbed did. Neil's rig is something that I hope my truck can one day be like. I think his truck is definitely cover material. Why do we have to look at a half built truck, when Neils is definitely a proven trail machine, complete with all the cool parts that make us drool? There are tons and tons of lifted and built 73-87 Chevy trucks of all styles. Why can't we see one of the best if we're gonna buy a magazine? Why is that too much to ask?
 
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I just was disappointed that I couldn't see something more of the vision that I've got for my truck.

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You said it.. Everybody as a diffrent vision for there truck. Just because yours isn't the same as mine doesn't mean mine is not as worthy as yours.Please get it threw your thick head that just because somebody doesn't agree with what you want they are not as good. /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif
 
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