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Shrunken Ned...

2 miles of hells revenge..then it had a pretty major cooling issue ...which we pretty much finished up fixing today...now it flows like it should. Gets to temp like it should. Nothing leaks. Both fans come on the way they should and it cools like a boss. Pulling the thermostat pretty much fixed all the issues. Big thx to all the guys who helped out on the trail, especially ORD Chris who had been throught the same thing with his truck and had all the answers. Rear mounted radiators just seem to hate thermostats.

Could you ever verify which rotation water pump is on it now? It isn't that rear mounted rad. hate thermostats it's just one more obstacle for the water to get around. I think your water pump is the wrong rotation and that is what was causing 90% of your issues. Then with the correct water pump you will probably want to park it with the radiator higher than the engine to fill it all up. I don't recommend not having the thermostat but what we did on the trail will make it work for now.

I hope you got to use it some and get to use it more, I think you have the makings of a pretty solid rig on your hands. It will have some new rig blues type things but I bet not many.
 
We installed a hose fitting on the upper radiator hose. A new used water temp gauge from my collection, tightened a bunch of clamps. Bled out all the air out of the cooling system, we hope. Let it run for awhile gauge is off a bit but fan works. Put it on high and in like minutes it drops 20 degrees. Seems to run fine. The steering is going to be fun to get used to but it is a learning curve.
 
it overheated pulling it off the trailer and going around the block...so i dont know...
 
it still has water issues..overheated putting it in the side yard
 
if it did I didnt see where it went...it acted like it had an air bubble
 
if it did I didnt see where it went...it acted like it had an air bubble

How much "oil" does it have. Leaking head gasket from overheating and it is going into the oil pan?

Your fill point and over flow hose point needs to be at the highest spot in the system, I think your Radiator is lower than your engine. That's fine but you will need to establish a fill point and over flow vent point above the radiator. Then it's down to water pump rotation and thermostats.
 
I'll check for water in oil...knock on wood. It does have a fill/ vent spot now that's the highest point.
 
oil is normal. opened the vent in the top heater hose...vented a ton of air under pressure, no water.
 
oil is normal. opened the vent in the top heater hose...vented a ton of air under pressure, no water.

In my head, as it warms up it pushes water out of the perhaps too low (I can't recall exact elevations now) radiator vent line into the catch can. I know from practical experience with mine that a small one QT catch can is about 1/5 of what you really need with a large volume system. So the catch can over flows as water is heated and expands out of the radiator. Then once it cools off it "sucks" the water in the catch can back in but there isn't enough water in the can so it pulls air in. In theory this should be fine because at full operating temps the water is still filling the entire radiator. In practice this could be introducing a big air bubble into the system that air locks it.

OR

Blown head gasket and the water is being sucked into the combustion chambers and burned. Or steam flashed and it's going out the catch can as steam?????? and this is why when it's (I assume) cold it had pressure in the system.

I have a suspicion it got way way hot on Hells, both when we were working on it and prior to that when you were driving until it iced the mixing valve up. This would confirm the blown head gasket theory.
 
air inside intake manifold also. replacing the temp sender, water was leaking out of the sender still. not pouring out, but enough to puddle on the intake
 
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I could temporarily block off the over flow bottle..see if that changes anything..i had the bottom drain of the over flow open for a while b4..(didnt realize it) and water was definitely flowing into it. my bottle is identical to the one you have on the buggy.
 
for now, I'm gonna just be in denial about the head gasket theory.
 
yeah no thermostat. we moved the sender to the manifold. plugged the head. sender is an old mech gauge Keith had. it leaks and the needle is 30 degrees off...I got a new one..the math made my head hurt
 
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