the droop is the same as before, minus the 1/4" for off set plate. The shock are short because the raised upper mount I just installed. In picture Drive shaft is resting on yoke.
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Wes's Burb build/update/maintance
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You just installed the mounts too high is all.
But yeah, you can get more droop in use with hard articulation than what's seen hanging from a hoist, or as the springs rebound dynamically.
Got my "ORD F3" Bilstien shocks from ORD today. put the first one no sweat. Open the second and is missing 1 eye bushing sleeve, no biggy I got coffee can full of sleeves and bushings.
Well every thing I have is to short or wrong diameter. I think well maybe a short one will work, lets see what length came with shock I already installed. Pop out the other shock and I notice the bushings don't match.
match the part numbers the seem to be the same. Well $&^t IDFK, and the bushing is at least a 1/4" longer than anything I have in a 1/2" id. Of course the missing bushing sleeve was from a box that had been open before.
Well every thing I have is to short or wrong diameter. I think well maybe a short one will work, lets see what length came with shock I already installed. Pop out the other shock and I notice the bushings don't match.
match the part numbers the seem to be the same. Well $&^t IDFK, and the bushing is at least a 1/4" longer than anything I have in a 1/2" id. Of course the missing bushing sleeve was from a box that had been open before.
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So now you know how to source the missing bushing.
Not pay $20 shipping ea way to steal a bushing.
Gonna remove welded was and cut to fit
Gonna remove welded was and cut to fit
I would still send an "FYI" email to ORD so that they know.
They can't maintain their customer service level if they don't know when something slips past. Just my opinion.
After wasting the afternoon making a replacement bushing sleeve for missing one. This morning I think I'm gonna make progress, F'ing wrong.
Lower bushing, the odd one, has a 7/16" sleeve in it. So now I gotta wait for ORD to send me the right shit any way. What a f&%$#%% waste of time.
Lower bushing, the odd one, has a 7/16" sleeve in it. So now I gotta wait for ORD to send me the right shit any way. What a f&%$#%% waste of time.
Yep. This is kind of the new normal anymore.
Very frustrating.
I could tell you several stories, but I currently have a truck waiting on a grommet to show up from Cummins. Neither Cummins nor did any of the 3 major truck dealerships had it on the shelf.
Very frustrating.
I could tell you several stories, but I currently have a truck waiting on a grommet to show up from Cummins. Neither Cummins nor did any of the 3 major truck dealerships had it on the shelf.
yep I am noticing the inventory at parts stores empty shelves on parts they normally carry, and special order "vendor out of stock"
My bitch is this shock as open, which means it was returned. Returned with the 7/16ths rod eye bushing bolt, that doesn't fit a square. Then they sent the thing to me. Both boxes have the same part number wtf is up with that ?? Miss box from Bilstein ??
I had to Press that bushing out. The sleeve is molded into rubber.
My bitch is this shock as open, which means it was returned. Returned with the 7/16ths rod eye bushing bolt, that doesn't fit a square. Then they sent the thing to me. Both boxes have the same part number wtf is up with that ?? Miss box from Bilstein ??
I had to Press that bushing out. The sleeve is molded into rubber.
All back together, sans one shock. Sitting on ground.
Got plenty of room in rear, looks like I might need to defang.
Slip looks much better
Cv at gravity droop
Got plenty of room in rear, looks like I might need to defang.
Slip looks much better
Cv at gravity droop
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Yes, that is very frustrating!
And since you are not a hot-head, you can actually help ORD out while getting what you need, albeit late.
Then HOPEFULLY, they won't have this problem as often in the future and have a total D-bag give them tons of crap over a similar problem.
Obviously doesn't help you out quickly, though.
And you went 1" forward, correct?
I am betting on it needing the fangs removed.
yep 1" forward. I need a fork lift.
If the bushing makes it a different part number, I would be more worried that the shock itself *is* the same damping you're expecting. If that's the only difference, I can see somebody missing that detail. It was probably a customer who swapped that or the whole shock and it ended up on the wrong shelf at ORD. This issue plagues all retailers.
Recently, I ordered an open box Monroe from Amazon and they sent me a same-size 5100 series in good used condition. For the $32 I paid, I decided not to return it, but keep my eyes open for another one.
Recently, I ordered an open box Monroe from Amazon and they sent me a same-size 5100 series in good used condition. For the $32 I paid, I decided not to return it, but keep my eyes open for another one.
THe numbers on the bodies match. I hope they are the same.
You will need to defang, my sub was running the same setup and it just kissed the back of the fender at full stuff/turn with no bumps
Living inbthe desert l should be able to find some decent rocks to pose on,but they have all been relocated to peoples yards.
When I spend good money on parts I expect to NOT get an open box.
This may sound like a goofy Q, nut have you tried using a non clutch fan or seized clutch fan ? Just to help diagnose.Victim of shitty new parts.
Last Sept on way home from UnBlazer Bash my Hayden extreme duty fan clutch gave up. Maybe 4 years old tops.
Grabbed a Duralast for expedience. Worked adequately during the winter. Not so much this spring with ac on.
Ordered amother Hayden 2797
Install. No change. Try a different fan,this time factory 5 blade. No change. 5 blade fan duralast clutch no change.
I am going nuts, thinking the big tires changed my rpm enough that I need a high flow water pump. Better electric condenser fan, 7 blade fan, idk what.
Well I spent $$ on a 12" Derale high out put pusher electric, and I got a OER 7 blade repop fan. Alreadyvhad a 6 blade Derale 19" fan.
OER seem to be 19.25" and @ 1/4" more pitch than the Derale. Original 5 blade is 2 9/16".
How I measured
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So I put new 7 blade on newest Hayden clutch. Check rad and condenser for debris blockages, all good, but blow the dust out for good measure.
All back together test time.
On choke the fan holds a red rag to grill.
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Off choke @900 rpm not so much.
Temp guage gets up to 1/4 where it runs normal. So far so good. Turn on max ac,temp starts climbing just like before.
I am standing over rad with my hand in air stream no force at all. Guage is up to half still no clutch engagement. Over half up to 5/8ths this is well over 215° at tstat, rad is to hot to touch.
Hayden clutch never engaged.
Dig out an old dirty oem clutch from my pile, swap it out. Truck is still hot. Fire it up turn max ac on, sitting at 1/4 on the guage just where I like it.
Sitting in cab typing this with max ac, actually getting chilly. We have some over xast and scattered T storms today. Not really a warm Havasu day shop thermometer is at 75.
So when someone here says they got a new whatever that dont mean shit. I had 2 new different brands and both were crap. Both being returned,and nasty reviews puplished.
