What's new
CK5
Register an account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members.

Wich one?? Low Low range ORD's Doubler or??>>>>>>

Re: Wich one?? Low Low range ORD\'s Doubler or??>>>>>>

</font><blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr />
FYI: I think a th400/203/205 is the way to go for rock crawling. I think the sm465/203/205 isn't low enough yet for crawlin' slowly on the rocks. The granny - low - low isn't quite low enough

[/ QUOTE ]
How do you figure on the 465/203/205 not being "low enough" for crawling?
The 465 has a way lower first gear than the 400 does. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
Re: Wich one?? Low Low range ORD\'s Doubler or??>>>>>>

Cool! Someone does have an Atlas!! /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
What did you have before?
What tranny are you running?
Do you climb freakin huge bolders that are sure to slam you in the rockers?
If So hows your speed? And how much brake do you need to use for RPM control?
Sorry for all the ???? you are the first with out a Doubler /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif
One thing that apeals to me about the Doubler is I get to rebuild two Xfer cases, clean um all up and makum peerty and configure the mounting and shaft length and then.................
KICK THE RUBICON's BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/ignore.gif
No trail has ever stopped me so quick before /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif
Anyway thanks for your comments... /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif /forums/images/graemlins/truck.gif /forums/images/graemlins/k5.gif /forums/images/graemlins/burb.gif /forums/images/graemlins/usaflag.gif /forums/images/graemlins/usaflag.gif /forums/images/graemlins/usaflag.gif
/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
Re: Wich one?? Low Low range ORD\'s Doubler or??>>>>>>

Ok, who has info on the 205 3:1 gearing. What is the # cost of something like that?
/forums/images/graemlins/ears.gif
 
Re: Wich one?? Low Low range ORD\'s Doubler or??>>>>>>

I believe ORD has the 3:1 stuff for the 205, but I could be wrong. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
Re: Wich one?? Low Low range ORD\'s Doubler or??>>>>>>

<font color="green"> The 3:1 is going to be available next spring from what I remember, maybe a bit earlier. It's supposed to be around $800 and ORD will be selling it.

I say a doubler, then put Waggoner's 3.1:1 kit in the 203. </font color>
 
Re: Wich one?? Low Low range ORD\'s Doubler or??>>>>>>

859doubler3.jpg


You mean like this???? /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif /forums/images/graemlins/k5.gif /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif


Mike
 
Re: Wich one?? Low Low range ORD\'s Doubler or??>>>>>>

Damn you! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
Re: Wich one?? Low Low range ORD\'s Doubler or??>>>>>>

I've been thinking about doing this for a while??? Would it be too hard??? I don't have a SM465 to look at right now, but i think i'm going to get 2 of them and start messing around!!
 
Re: Wich one?? Low Low range ORD\'s Doubler or??>>>>>>

first i've come across a few bad ideas in this thread.
- 3:1 in the first case is not the best idea. the 203 with 3:1 multiplies the torque on the 205 alot more. 205 is strong, but do you want to find out how strong the hard way?
- same comment about the klune in front of the atlas. they dont recomend an atlas in a fullsize truck, let alone with the reduction of a klune in front of it.

not that those combos are guaranteed to break by any means, but why stack the deck against you? i say run with a proven combo that gives you 1:1, 2:1 and 4:1 and will hold up in a fullsize truck. doubler gets the nod in my book. just my .02 /forums/images/graemlins/usaflag.gif
 
Re: Wich one?? Low Low range ORD\'s Doubler or??>>>>>>

looks too easy to me
 
Re: Wich one?? Low Low range ORD\'s Doubler or??>>>>>>

ohhhh preety. Now explain to me what I'm looking at? I see a 205 but what is the black part? /forums/images/graemlins/ears.gif
 
Re: Wich one?? Low Low range ORD\'s Doubler or??>>>>>>

Thanks!
Fullsize abuse is something I do need to be prepared for!! /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
Doubler is winning this debate by a long shot!! /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif /forums/images/graemlins/usaflag.gif /forums/images/graemlins/usaflag.gif
 
Re: Wich one?? Low Low range ORD\'s Doubler or??>>>>>>

That's a completed Doubler setup. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif The red part is the 205, the silver part is the adapter that comes in the Doubler kit, and the black part is the low range section of a 203. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif /forums/images/graemlins/k5.gif
 
Re: Wich one?? Low Low range ORD\'s Doubler or??>>>>>>

Ahhh, man that don't look like a 203 any more!! Cool!!
thanks!
OHhhhhh gooody goody gooody
Ok I've got my camo gear on and now I am hunting for Xfercases. Should I use sent block /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gifhehehe
Oh I better get some Chevy orange spray paint too
 
Re: Wich one?? Low Low range ORD\'s Doubler or??>>>>>>

Yep, Harry is exactly right! /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

I started with a turbo 400 with a 203 behind it. I stripped the 203 down to just the range box and replaces the seal and front bearing. I then took a turbo 350 version 205 and completely disassembeled it. I took the case and the new input bearing that I got from ORD to the machine shop to have the bearing hole enlarged. I then reassembeled the 205 with the new short 32 spline(turbo 400) input shaft that also came from ORD. Then it is just a matter of bolting it all together with the big aluminum doubler adapter. Now I have 32 spline input and output all the way through! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Should be bomb proof!

Good luck finding a turbo 400 version 205. After months of looking, I decided it would be cheaper to convert the one I had. It wasn't difficult, and it feels good knowing it is right!

Mike
 
Re: Wich one?? Low Low range ORD\'s Doubler or??>>>>>>

Cool man! /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
Thanks for the comments! /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
I will first give it a 'best effort' to locate a Th400 205xfer if I fail then will take the route you took!
One thing I do have it Time!
Wish me luck /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/usaflag.gif /forums/images/graemlins/usaflag.gif /forums/images/graemlins/usaflag.gif
 
Re: Wich one?? Low Low range ORD\'s Doubler or??>>>>>>

I think the question is how well can you control your wheel slip.

I love manual transmissions for their ability to deliver more power to wheels than an automatic. Howevever, my opinion (at this time) is the automatic slipping clutch is better for rockcrawling. I was able to go up a simple stair step in 2-HI (lockers off) with my th350/203 setup. This is a 203 that has had the part time conversion on it, so it really is in 2-HI.

I tried the stair step in granny low, 4 low, (not double low) with Lockers ON, and I got stopped, because of the wheels ALWAYS getting power, all four slipped!!!

I tried it again with granny low, low, and low. STILL all FOUR tires slipped...(albeit slowly).

It may be a question of speed... Maybe I need more momentum and speed to get me over that rock. Honestly, I don't recall what my speeds were with the automatic going up that stair step.

It MAY also be a question of my old BFG ATs not being able to grip the dirt/rocks.

I DO like the fact that all tires rotate just having me idll-ing around. I simply idle up (in granny/low/low) almost any hill now - perhaps the key is my tires and their ability to get traction. If there is a rock in the way of my going up a hill - my rig stops - becuase all the tires will slip. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

NOW, I think if I had an auto with a low / low the slipping of the transmission will allow the tires to slow down and grip that rock as needed.

I may just need more seat time using the granny SM465 and learning how to use my clutch more.
But honestly, I thought I shouldn't have to slip my clutch with sm465/203/205.

Remember, I have NEVER wheeled with a manual trans before.

The reason I went with the SM465 combo is becuase I AM SCARED TO DEATH that an automatic transmission will leave stranded on a trail...

Unlike others, I like the ability to DRIVE to a trail... run the trail... and actually DRIVE my rig home... /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif /forums/images/graemlins/ignore.gif

j/k /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif

Flame suit is on!!! FLAME away!
 
Re: Wich one?? Low Low range ORD\'s Doubler or??>>>>>>

Wagoner Machine also makes a doubler setup. Mudzer has purchased one from them and has stated it only adds about 3" to the overall legnth. I think he said he had clocked the 203 upside down for more clearance.
 
Re: Wich one?? Low Low range ORD\'s Doubler or??>>>>>>

</font><blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr />
they dont recomend an atlas in a fullsize truck, let alone with the reduction of a klune in front of it.


[/ QUOTE ]
Read the atlas manual. The make the 32 spline Atlas, or Atlas III especially for fullsize or high torque applications. I have had mine in for a while, and DBlazer has had his in for even longer w/ no problems at all. Most people can attest to the fact that we romp on our junk hard. A large majority of the competition rock crawlers run reduction planetaries, i.e. Klune-V's in front of Atlas's. If it could be broke, they would probably be the ones to do it. I don't believe they would put a part in their rig that is prone to fall, considering that is their paycheck. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
 
Re: Wich one?? Low Low range ORD\'s Doubler or??>>>>>>

Burt I have a better Idea for you. Go and find a 241TC that is cracked with the correct input gear you need. Then send it to me and I will make you a gear reduction unit out of it like the KluneV.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Latest Posts

Top Bottom