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2000 Buick Sleeper build - 2nd engine trashed!

I'm checking Craigslist for used S/C engines. Looks like I'll have to spend $500-$600. These are full roller engines that run forever, so as long as it's running, I'm not too worried. Anybody in MI know of one for sale?

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My buddy has a GS he is selling hole/ or for parts. He did the whole sleeper thing for awhile then traded his previous "fast" Gs in for a G8 GT
 
I'm wondering if 2-3 guys could push the car onto the dolly. Or maybe chock the dolly wheels and pull the car up with a strap. Plan to use the Yukon XL to tow. K5 has a winch, but needs about 14" drop hitch to work at normal height. Plus Swampers suck on icy roads.

when i bought my nova, it took 3 of us but we pushed it onto a uhaul transport. We had it hooked to the truck and then just pushed it on
 
Look what I have:

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It's from a 2001 Regal GS. 140k miles. Oil looks good, turns freely, still had some coolant in it, which looked good. Teardown will come later.
 
Can I build a Buick in here?

Picking up a Regal GS with no engine, but lots of aftermarket parts. Plans are something like this:

-Replacement L67 engine (S/C 3800)
-Ported supercharger and matching intake
-Intercooler
-Undersize supercharger pulley (3.0"?)
-50lb/hr injectors (left over from E85 conversion)
-Fenderwell air intake
-Stainless headers
-custom 3" downpipe and exhaust
-maybe a cam
-Dyno tuning at ZZP
-Stock suspension
-No exterior mods.

The idea is a comfy DD and sleeper. Should be able to get 300WHP.

Holy sh!t...next thing you know we'll have Bronco's and Mushtangs in here.....

that's what OTHER RIDES is for!
I think Eric has one of those in his Pontiac...
 
yeah, whatever I guess....its the new lounge ya know!
 
Actually, I have had requests to do a build thread. Isn't this what they were talking about?
 
I was just thinking in the direction of the forum guidelines for the Driveway:

http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=274633

I think it will be more visible in Other Rides, there isn't as much traffic and its non CK specific, so it don't get bumped off the first page so quickly as in the driveway or garage...I put my Vette thread there...its not a truck so I felt that was the place for it to be by description...

Other Rides
This is the place for questions and answers regarding your Hot Rod, Street Machine, Muscle Car, or even your daily driver.
 
But this thread is truck related! Two GMCs!

Towing the car home yesterday (with GMC Yukon XL) was super scary as US-131 turned to ice. All 4 tires wanted to spin going up the hills. Some little SUV spun out right in front of me and landed on top of the snowbank, about 4' above the roadway. I promise you I was not drowsy after this. But praise God, made it home fine.

After rolling off the dolly, enter GMC #2: K5 with a winch. (Since it was surrounded by 3' of snow, this was also snow wheeling!) Hooked straps to the back of my garage and used a snatch block to winch the Buick inside with the K5 facing into the adjacent stall.


Here's the blown engine:

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Car came with SLP coated SS headers. Will definately run these.

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Lower intake manifold has been modified for the intercooler, but the blower outlet seems stock. I may do some work to the blower before installing it.

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are you using the intercooler on the 01 style charger and intake? is that the gen v style? Im interested in incorporating that into my monte carlo swap.
 
Gen V is like 2004+. This is all the Gen III, which started in 96 or 97.
 
So whats the plans for pistons? Do you have old re-usable ones? I only ask because if you gotta replace them 9.5:1 would be a great base for 6-10 psi on 93 octane :D
 
No plans to change compression. I would maybe have purchased an L36 instead. Really the ultimate plan would have been an L67 with the L36 intake manifold and a turbo. I'm planning to basically use the complete running engine I bought, but swapping on the intercooler and injectors from the blown engine.

What I've discovered today:
-Injectors are 42lb/hr, which is probably ideal.
-Intake manifold has been machined to work with intercooler (good).
-Supercharger is bone stock. No outlet work or inlet work. No machining was required to fit the pulley.
-While there is an 85mm Northstar MAF with the car, there is no sign of the wiring ever converted to run it. The stock MAF is in the stock 69mm throttle body and seems to have still been in use. This is marginal for my plans and if it was used for the so-called 400WHP, the engine must have been in pure speed density at the top end.
-The pulley is 2.8".
 
what is the intercooler from is what I am asking. I know some guys swap in the gen v stuff, but wondered what path you were doing. Simply taking notes.
 
The intercooler is aftermarket. GM never packaged 3800 with one. There is some minor difference in the intercoolers used for Gen III/V - something with the PCV, but the intercooler core is the same.
 
The intercooler is aftermarket. GM never packaged 3800 with one. There is some minor difference in the intercoolers used for Gen III/V - something with the PCV, but the intercooler core is the same.

What is it? Air to water between the intake and S/C?
 
Yes. Then a water to air exchanger goes in front of the radiator. The system uses an electric water pump.
 
I too almost did something similar to this with all factory parts. I was waste deep in my X's 3.4L Ram Air Grand Am, had the supercharger and everything for it, was just a few parts short of having it done and then I kicked her out and lost that project.

They are fun little cars, I think my next work car is going to be a GTP or something similar.
 
I'm starting to question a cam swap at this time. It looks like a mild cam can work with stock heads and rockers, good for 40+HP. That's about $410 for cam, springs and retainers. Obviously it's 100x easier to swap it on an engine stand than to drop the engine cradle in the car later, but I'm worried about getting the engine to actually run well enough to do the break-in.

I'm kind of anxious just to get it running and see what kind of basic vehicular headaches I have. I think I could just swap the intercooler and injectors over, put on a bigger S/C pulley (3.2" should be safe, 3.0" might be possible, I just don't want to have to buy a bunch of sizes), drop the motor in and get it going.

Speaking of engine stand, instead of taking precautions to prevent lifters from falling, why not pull the rockers and pushrods, then flip the engine upside down to change the cam?
 
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