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52s vs custom front leaves
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FRIZZLEFRY
1/2 ton status
Sure there is.The factory length 4" recipes are probably very similar.Similar enough to give a ball park estimate.Im not looking for a number thats within +/-.001 of actual,I was just looking for a rough guess.
No.
If you only have 2" of up travel until the spring starts to go past flat into negative arch,with properly set up bumps I would be getting into them alot in town.That would make for a way harsh ride off road.
A 4" spring for a GM app. wont
This is why I decided to go spring under.I have new perches welded to the bottom of my 44 ,picked up my springs Saturday from Pacific Fab,and I have a pair of Bilstein 7100s to throw on.
Go look at Class 3 Blazers,Dodges,and old school Class 4 solid front axle trucks.Thats what Im aiming for
I must be missing something since you tend to know what you're talking about. You're asking how much arch they have, then state that all of the factory-length springs have the same arch, so what's the question? Now granted, if it is a 4" spring, the static ride arch has already been defined. It sounds like you're working from the assumption that a spring shouldn't go "negative" in arch, which has mostly been dispelled in other threads here. But again, if all the springs have the same arch, then by that assumption they all have the same uptravel. It also means that you need as much arch at ride height as you need uptravel and we all know that huge arch springs tend to travel less.Sure there is.The factory length 4" recipes are probably very similar.Similar enough to give a ball park estimate.Im not looking for a number thats within +/-.001 of actual,I was just looking for a rough guess.
No.
If you only have 2" of up travel until the spring starts to go past flat into negative arch,with properly set up bumps I would be getting into them alot in town.That would make for a way harsh ride off road.
A 4" spring for a GM app. wont
Did you say which shocks?
FRIZZLEFRY
1/2 ton status
Sorry,I should have been more specific
The ORD factory legnth 4" recipes for the springs they spec out are most likely very similar.
In my personal and first hand experience,repeated negative arch kills springs. The less negative arch you subject your springs to the longer they will live.
And not all huge arch springs are created equal
shocks were what ever ORD sold as the cheaper option. ?
They were fine at first but the shocks are crap now. I need the bilstiens
So this is what ORD leaves look like. 10 leafs, 12 teflon pads, military wrap, almost 50" long, with the center pin about 1" forward.
Oh boy oh boy oh boy!
did you get them for all 4 corners? I really need to get my van sold for cash for Ord springs and 7100s up front, and 5150s out back. If you shop around the 7100s can be had for around $170ea. Im stoked to see how you like the setup at the dunes man. I hope its sweet as thats all i want it for. 
Thats what i thought you said at the dunes but i couldnt remember. How long did it take for them to get to you after ordering?
big pappa b
3/4 ton status
The ones I just bolted in my Jimmy look just like that 
So this is what ORD leaves look like. 10 leafs, 12 teflon pads, military wrap, almost 50" long, with the center pin about 1" forward.
And how do you like them?The ones I just bolted in my Jimmy look just like that
big pappa b
3/4 ton status
Well, they look pretty sitting there. Unfortunately, the rear of the Jimmy is supported by jackstands and a cherry picker at the moment. Waiting on some bushings for the rear springs and then have to weld on the spring pads. Will likely have to get a different driveshaft made and then figure out what shocks to use...Lots to do before I get to test out the new springs
When people talk about the springs not lasting very long are they using just stock rears up front? Im looking at goin ahead and doin the B-52 kit and running some 56 in leafs front and rear. I want to lift it also so I was thinking about running a 56 in long 4 in lift at all four corners. I already have a four in shackle flip in rear so in theory a 4 in in rear with the flip will get me 8 in lift and a 4 in rear leaf up front will get me 8 in up front. I would prob order them through ORD and talk with them and get custom springs so even though they might all be 4 in lift and 56 in long they may or may not be identical. Im not rich by any means but dont mind dropping some money on something if its what I want and it works. So if I ordered the custom springs then hopefully they wont start giving me problems after my first wheeling trip. What you all think?
I think your numbers are about right and I think all of this has already been discussed in this thread. The stock springs seem to last a lot longer when you leave the overload leafs in, but if you want to flex the spring a lot, the custom units live a lot longer.
Looking at the EZ-rides next to the ORDs, it's hard to believe that the ORDs are softer - but they are way softer.
I have to re-adjust to the brake dive and body roll now. It's very easy adjusting to the ride, though...
I have to re-adjust to the brake dive and body roll now. It's very easy adjusting to the ride, though...
Thanks for posting pics Blue85!! I had lots of people tell me no way would I be happy with 9 leaves in my front springs. I either take them for a ride, or they see it when I hit bumps. As I said before, they are great and fixed my truck.
hey guys... Old thread i know, But im in the middle of changing out my 84 k10 front springs... off the truck they have a free arch of 5", on the tuck they sit level. They ride like crap and have almost no flex.. Before i removed them, i removed the Rancho 5000 shocks and took it for a spin. MUCH softer, but still pretty rough. (sway bar is discoed as well) well after days of researching, I was going to go with the EZ ride 4" springs.. Then decided to have mine "re-arched" but then decided to just go with a 52 up front..
Well NOW im thinking about trying a 46/52 hybrid spring... Use the front main leaf, but the 52's pack under it.. best of both worlds no?
Has anyone ever attempted this? If so, how did it work?
Well NOW im thinking about trying a 46/52 hybrid spring... Use the front main leaf, but the 52's pack under it.. best of both worlds no?
Has anyone ever attempted this? If so, how did it work?
COCHEV
1/2 ton status
There is a guy over on expedition portal that did this. Can't remember his user name but his build is in the full size domestic forum. Its a 80s 3/4 ton pickup if I remember right. I'll try to find it tonight.
Anyways , he said it worked well. He did a homemade shackle flip out back to match...
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