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.....and here we are on Page 30!

I thought this truck would be photographed outside before the snow starts flying..... but now I'm not so sure!!!!





-G
 
That would be nice if I can make it happen, but also I just want to keep as much weight LOW as possible as I think that can be equally important.

It will also be interesting to see how the overall weight (and weight bias) changes between "street mode" configuration and "transformer mode".... when I pull off the hood, fenders and rear quarterpanels and tailgate, that should be a pretty healthy weight-reduction. :thinking:


-G

Wait...what? You're gonna make the rear quarters removable?
 
Wait...what? You're gonna make the rear quarters removable?

You gotta pay better attention, son. :haha:

...but yes, the outer sheetmetal will be removeable. The inside structure will be preserved completely, and the idea is to incorporate a "rub rail" in the cavity between the outer and inner panels, so that when the outer is removed there is something to ride against besides the delicate bedrail area or inner structures.

-G


ps. Your truck is parked in the wrong side of the garage. Personally, I think the Honda belongs on the driveway and all 3 bays should belong to the K5.
 
Well as in everything in life, weight has an accounting balance. Sounds like you are doing too bad if you have removed all of the original weight you mentioned.

Keep up the inspiring build.

I am still stalled on this tcase shifter, and i cannot believe how much having a kid has reduced my garage time.
 
holy ****... i just read the last 5 pages of this thread, the level of engineering in this rig is unbelievable. i'm subscribing to this one, so many ideas... i cannot wait to see this thing outside on all 4s.
 
Ain't that the truth... :doah: :haha:

Sure is, but it's over fast and then you spend the rest of your life remembering how cute they were back then. my two girls are just shy of 14 and 20 respectively now.

Sorry for the hijack Greg...
 
You gotta pay better attention, son. :haha:

...but yes, the outer sheetmetal will be removeable. The inside structure will be preserved completely, and the idea is to incorporate a "rub rail" in the cavity between the outer and inner panels, so that when the outer is removed there is something to ride against besides the delicate bedrail area or inner structures.

-G


ps. Your truck is parked in the wrong side of the garage. Personally, I think the Honda belongs on the driveway and all 3 bays should belong to the K5.

I always knew you were gonna take most of the panels off to wheel, but must have missed the rear quarters plan. Especially after all the work to replace the skins.

That's a dressed up Honda, man. The Acura has lived a sheltered life....literally. It's never parked outside overnight while I've owned it. :D
 
It's called baby jail for a reason...just ask Greg. :haha:

Truth.

Go back and look at this build around January 2011 when "Danger" was born.... there are literally MONTHS of time where I didn't even post an update, and eventually I locked the thread down so I wouldn't have to hear people complaining that there was no progress. :D In 2011, I think I got two garage days..... Father's Day and my birthday. That's IT. 2012 was pretty slow also, and it wasn't until around June that I started getting back into the shop on a semi-regular basis. I call this truck my "patient mistress"... sometimes I lavish lots of time and attention (and $$$) on it, but other times it can just sit for months at a time getting buried under dust and boxes and whatever house project is currently underway.....

If you've got a new baby in the house and you still have lots of time to work on your truck, you're not being a very good father or husband (or babydaddy) :doah:



holy ****... i just read the last 5 pages of this thread, the level of engineering in this rig is unbelievable. i'm subscribing to this one, so many ideas... i cannot wait to see this thing outside on all 4s.

Thanks! If you think it takes a long time to READ this thread, imagine how much time it takes to actually write all of this and take the photos. :D


I always knew you were gonna take most of the panels off to wheel, but must have missed the rear quarters plan. Especially after all the work to replace the skins.

At this point, I have only replaced the rear quarter on the PS and I've only modified the door on the PS as well. Admittedly, having already figured out how to do it will make it faster when I move to the DS.... but there is still a long way to go in the panel fitting department. Once I can move the truck on it's own tires, I'll finally be able to park it facing the opposite way and start doing the driver's side repairs....



-G
 
Thanks! If you think it takes a long time to READ this thread, imagine how much time it takes to actually write all of this and take the photos. :D

-G
I think this is underappreciated by a lot of us. I know how time consuming it can be to take pics, size them, upload, link to them and do a decent write up of what is going on. Even on the simple stuff I do I'm many times too lazy to do all of that so I do appreciate that a lot of you guys are so diligent about it. so, thank you! :thumb:
 
the hiatus was certainly understandable, but it's been awesome having you back at it hardcore recently... :popcorn:

it honestly motivates me to get back in the Lab... :waytogo:
 
I think this is underappreciated by a lot of us. I know how time consuming it can be to take pics, size them, upload, link to them and do a decent write up of what is going on. Even on the simple stuff I do I'm many times too lazy to do all of that so I do appreciate that a lot of you guys are so diligent about it. so, thank you! :thumb:

I share the same sentiments! Folks like Chief, Greg, Moses, and several others are ones that i recognize the amount of time and thought they put into taking the pics, loading them onto the computer, and then going back through them and writing about them. I can say that i do appreciate it!
 
I went to visit a buddy down in Boston this weekend, so not much progress to report.....


...but there is a SOME. :D


Last night I logged about 4 hours, and managed to get some additional finish welding completed, and then starting plating-in the heim brackets.

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I did the "corner-to-corner" fitment which is a real challenge to weld properly. It tends to melt off the corners of the two plates, and in this case since it was slightly uphill the puddle wanted to drip downward a bit as well.

Once I got those front heims boxed-in, I moved my attention to the rear mount.

As always, templates are the key to getting things done more quickly and accurately.

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A bit of cutting and a bit of shaping on the disc grinder and the part was ready to burn-in.... Here's how it all ended up at around midnight last night:

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If you look at the progression of these pics you can also notice that I was back-stepping the welds on the long side plates throughout the evening.... starting from the center. I'd weld a couple 3" passes.... then work on some plating.... then go over and lay down another 3" pass or two on each side then let those cool while I worked on something else. By the end of the night those 24" long weld sections were complete with minimal warping or distortion.

It was definitely challenging working on the welds close to the heim areas though. There were some fillet welds inside the "pocket" where the heim installs, and I knew that when I removed the heim to get the welding done it was almost certain to shrink and pull the pocket inward....making it almost impossible to get the heim re-installed. I was right. :eek1:

Fortunately with a little leverage I was able to get the heims (and 0.010" shims) reinstalled and the pressure held them in place perfectly. Then, as I made the weld passes on the outer part of those brackets (along the large flat plate) the shrinkage pulled the pocket back out the opposite way and started to give back the heim clearance I'd lost from the first series of welds. In fact, the pull was good enough that the heims almost wanted to fall out. So I reinserted the 3/4" bolts and snugged them down while all the welds were still hot so that it would cool to the correct final dimension.

The more I get into fabrication like this the more I realize that to do it well, you really have to think about the welding sequences and plan ahead for the inevitable shrinking and movement of metal. If you ignore those realities, and just try to plow ahead and lay down long welds everywhere it's easy to end up with a twisted mess....



-G
 
Looking like some very nice beads, Greg. :waytogo:

You have to be happy with the final product after so much thought and time had went into it. :bow:

Anything that you would have done different? Generally, there is always something that pops up that I think about changing towards the end of a piece. :dunno:
 
Looking like some very nice beads, Greg. :waytogo:

You have to be happy with the final product after so much thought and time had went into it. :bow:

Anything that you would have done different? Generally, there is always something that pops up that I think about changing towards the end of a piece. :dunno:


I guess it would have been better if I could have pre-drilled all the large "speed holes" in the base plate before doing all the welding because now it's going to be a real pain to get them drilled cleanly..... however, having a bunch of holes in the bottom plate may have allowed the part to bend/twist more during the welding processes so it's hard to say for sure that I'd have been better off pre-drilling.

I'm still bummed that I couldn't get the adjustable anti-squat to work...that would have been cool. At this point, I don't even have extra holes to change my rear AS%.... so it's 69% forever....take it or leave it. :doah: Ultimately, I can do some tuning with the ORIs...and since they don't "push off" like a coilover on steep climbs it's probably not the end of the world that my rear AS is at a fixed value.

Beyond that, I can't think of much I'd change. The flat crossmember is the result of a LOT of other pre-planning that was done in the years leading up to this point, so it is somewhat misleading to look at the pics now and assume it all just happened so easily over the last few weeks. Obviously a huge part of it was locating the Atlas up really high, and then planning the front suspension so that the front driveshaft had a place to live, and didn't interfere with the links themselves (who didn't have a whole lot of space to fit either!) :D As I've tried to express before.... the end result can "look" really simple in it's implementation, but there are literally dozens of other considerations and decisions that have to be worked-out simultaneously or none of it will fall into place properly......

......and THAT is why my scrap pile is so tall these days! :haha:




-G
 

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