I think the heater is pre filter so it doesn't gel in the filter. Wait... Weren't we talking about brake lines???
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76 CCDRW...Cummins noises
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That's what I said. Twice in one day folks are unable to read my posts!
@Greg72, this hasta be your fault.
Sorry guys I try to think ahead at times so when I have the opportunity to work on something I have the parts I need ready to go....hence the brakeline chat!
I'm trying to get the engine running again soon then I have to get after other things on my never ending list of things to get done including getting the Maiden ready for a UP run that includes camping in the truck.
So with the fuel heater....the heater is heating the fuel that is before the filter and injection pump. The talk on Cummins forums is its a somewhat problematic area for sucking air in around the gaskets where it is sandwiched in between the strainer bowl and the upper housing. It also doesn't heat any of the fuel in the filter or injection pump and injection lines which is about a quart of fuel.
I don't plan on running this truck in cold weather so getting rid of the heater and the electrical plug is one less thing to worry about.
I'm trying to get the engine running again soon then I have to get after other things on my never ending list of things to get done including getting the Maiden ready for a UP run that includes camping in the truck.
So with the fuel heater....the heater is heating the fuel that is before the filter and injection pump. The talk on Cummins forums is its a somewhat problematic area for sucking air in around the gaskets where it is sandwiched in between the strainer bowl and the upper housing. It also doesn't heat any of the fuel in the filter or injection pump and injection lines which is about a quart of fuel.
I don't plan on running this truck in cold weather so getting rid of the heater and the electrical plug is one less thing to worry about.
Looking forward to this trip.
I think you'll be fine. My (limited) experience with the 5.9 engines is that they are more willing to start than the 6.2s in marginal conditions. I have started my '83 at 20 below on a block heater and at about 5* without block heater. Never had problems with fuel gelling in my unheated filter. But my understanding is that fuel standards have changed since the rig was made.
Interesting and sad story, one of the previous owners of my rig ended up dying (
) though a chain of events that started when the truck stranded him on the side of the road due to fuel gelling (running No. 2 with improperly mixed fuel additives). They said the fuel required treatment below 32* F to operate the truck. The driver filled up, didn't mix the additives properly, and found himself stranded a ways down the road.The manual for the newer trucks claims the fuel heater allows usage of No. 2 diesel down to some lower temperature (I think it's 0*).
I'm now able to run what our stations call "No. 2" diesel at any temperature I've faced yet without any gelling issues. Something has changed (might just be the nomenclature, I'm not sure).
This isn't directly related to your engine, but I'm prone to think that the principles are similar. If that's a popular leaking spot, and you're not running in wintertime anyway, I don't see any downsides. Chop chop!
I never run additives an my 6.6 or 6.4, also never did in my 5.9 or other 7.3. Buy good blended fuel (they start blending around Nov. 10 here) and stay away from Bio and never an issue. Ive only come close to gelling if I couldn't get good fuel
I wouldn't worry about gelling. Even if you happen to be in a cold climate for some reason it doesn't take much additive to keep from gelling up. We get pretty stinkin cold up here (-28 at times) and I never had any problems. I used howes diesel additive which may or may not have been the secret? Could have just been good fuel too? But either way it's cheap insurance if you need it. Ramble ramble... blub blub blub...
I actually wouldn't mind driving in the winter, but as quick as the salt eats up these trucks I will just park it for 5 mos. each year.
I believe Luke said he has removed his from his 5.9 as well, and in Alberta they see plenty of cold as well. Not sure if he used any additive though.
I believe Luke said he has removed his from his 5.9 as well, and in Alberta they see plenty of cold as well. Not sure if he used any additive though.
No problem starting in the winter running summer fuel. Then again my truck does get parked as well. I do run howes in every tank.
Howes treats up to 375 gallons where Lucas is only 200. Lol
I honestly don't know about Lucas but i never had any bad results from howes. I think Lucas makes good products so I wouldn't expect there diesel treatment to be any different. Couldn't resist the last reply. I was going to follow up with this one but I fell asleep! lol
We are 2 hours behind you out here. 11pm was a little late for me though!
Haven't used the Lucas, but I have no complaints with the Howe's. I have also used Power Service and Stanadyne brand additives.
Not sure if you've read through this yet, this is an attempt to quantify the lubricity of various additives.
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/76.../177728-lubricity-additive-study-results.html
A little google searching turns up some other articles as well.
Howes is very commonly used around here.
Martin
Martin
We use Stanadyne blue stuff in the 6.2 and 6.5, and a cocktail of different FPPF bottles for the Duramax.
I forgot my Stanadyne before a big road trip and used Lucas instead. Worked well.
David
I forgot my Stanadyne before a big road trip and used Lucas instead. Worked well.
David
I used a bottle of stanadyne because it was a freebie and it seemed to work well also. Powerservice is what we always used in equipment. No complaints there. Diesel 911 has been a possible cause of VP44 pump failure though. I can't confirm that though.
