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I got a much nicer, stronger pusher fan. Its a 2100-2199cfm fan. I also got a little 8" fan that claims 650cfm.
I didnt nstall the little fan because i wasnt sure if it would block air or help.

20-30 mins idling no reving no driving with the ac on full blast it hit 203. Debating if i want to throw on the little fan or not... hmmmm...

Another thought i had was to move the trans cooler somewhere else and add another full size pusher. That would most likely help. I was thinking under the truck behind the bumper slanted going from that crossmember to the bumper. Since it has its own fan i bet it would still work. And it gives me the option to throw a huge cooler on.

I also set it up so fitech is controlling the fan***

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I have to say pri fitech i never ran hot.
It sucks because i also added ac at the same time, now im stuck guessing which change messed it up.

If its the fitech i bet some adjustments would fix it. Maybe fatten it up a bit and advance or retard the timing a hair..
 
Have you put Windstars on this thing yet ?

Yeah they did ok at idle but i was getting hot on the freeway. I pulled it out and went to a new heavy duty mechanical clutch and the big ass fan for the 6.2 diesel. It seems like i can get freeway temps down or idle temperatures down but not both. Thats why im running this combo now.
 
Get rid of the grill see how it does then.

Freeway is not enough air flow.
Idle is not enough fan power.


Airflow is part of why im thinking of moving my trans cooler. Get it out of the grill.

The nice thing here is with this combo its not "overheating" its just running warmer than i like.

I will have plan b back tomorrow so ill be back to mostly focusing on that rig and this will be on ice again for a little bit.

I have a list of things i want to try.

I will say i haven't tried the windstars with the new water pump... not sure if that would make a difference. Didnt seem to change much.
 
Run it with out the grill see what its does. Then move the trans cooler and see what it does. Do it in steps that way you know which one works the best.

If the trans cooler has its own fan no reason to put it in the front, doing more harm then good.
 
Run it with out the grill see what its does. Then move the trans cooler and see what it does. Do it in steps that way you know which one works the best.

If the trans cooler has its own fan no reason to put it in the front, doing more harm then good.

Ok im willing to play ball and try these things.

IF i ended up moving the trans cooler under the vehicle i have thought about running 2 of these in series. They have pretty good reviews and they are designed for limited airflow.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/der-13263
 
Just a question, you know what grill i run right? Im not sure how it could be restrictive but ill give it a go
 
Anyone try these trans coolers
Derale Heat Sink Transmission Coolers
 
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ok it's slow at work so i have been toying with ideas... what if i got a bigger trans cooler with a 10" fan attached and i moved it under the car like this? that would free up any restrictions in the grill area and would most likely keep the trans much cooler. my trans frequently gets hot like 220-230.

I maintain that i think a cooler trans would help the engine stay cooler also because the trans fluid passes through the radiator. I'm not 100% convinced my current setup is really enough for my high stall converter and big tires with crappy gearing.

AGAIN just playing with ideas....
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/der-13900
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Well since I seem to be in a similar boat, I will share my thoughts and experiences and maybe some questions.

So I have the big radiator, 19"x34" core. I have Windstar fans mounted to this radiator controlled by the Sniper. The larger fan comes on at 180F, off at 170F so it stays on most all the time. The smaller fan is on at 185F and off at 175F. (I adjust these temps up 5 degrees in the winter FWIW) The interesting thing is the Windstar fans only cover an area of 17"x28". So there is a lot of radiator without fan coverage. In front of the radiator I have the biggest B&M stack plate transmission cooler I could get that has its own fan. I do not have AC.

On the last trip my engine was overheating on any kind of hill climb, both highway and on the trail. I would push it up to 220F and then stop to cool down. It would cool down within about 15 minutes. On the highway my speeds would stay at 35-40mph pulling the camper up the hills which I feel is enough speed to be pushing more air through than the fans can pull. On flat ground with the camper in tow running 65mph the temps would stay at around 195F. This is with outside temps of 90-95F. And this was all towing the camper. I only drove a little on the highway this weekend without the camper and the truck was still heating up on hill climbs just not as quickly as with the camper.

So I think I could solve the trail overheating with bigger fans and shrouding the entire radiator. I'm just at a loss for the highway cooling. I should be maximizing the air flow through a pretty large radiator and it still doesn't keep up. I wanted to add AC, but then it would really be struggling.

I too have thought about moving the trans cooler away from the radiator. @muddysub did this in his burb and I think it has been working well for him. My trans temps are not going out of control like the engine, which I'm happy about. I just don't want it to become a problem by messing with things.

It's interesting you are having the idle cooling issues because one of my other next step ideas was to install a mechanical fan and shroud. I was worried the idle/trail temps would become a problem and based on your experience that could very well happen.

I did notice in my searching and looking at factory 454 fan components there apparently was a factory electric fan that would be installed on the AC condenser. So maybe not surprising that you're using an electric pusher fan with your mechanical fan setup.

I'm also thinking I want to try adding an engine oil cooler but again this will need to be mounted somewhere other than in front of the radiator.

I didn't have this trouble for the first year I had the Holley Sniper setup on the motor, my troubles began with the 4l80e install. So I bet your problem is probably coming from the addition of AC and not from the FiTech.

Don't know if my post is of any help, but thought maybe we could at least compare notes and commiserate. :D
 
Well since I seem to be in a similar boat, I will share my thoughts and experiences and maybe some questions.

So I have the big radiator, 19"x34" core. I have Windstar fans mounted to this radiator controlled by the Sniper. The larger fan comes on at 180F, off at 170F so it stays on most all the time. The smaller fan is on at 185F and off at 175F. (I adjust these temps up 5 degrees in the winter FWIW) The interesting thing is the Windstar fans only cover an area of 17"x28". So there is a lot of radiator without fan coverage. In front of the radiator I have the biggest B&M stack plate transmission cooler I could get that has its own fan. I do not have AC.

On the last trip my engine was overheating on any kind of hill climb, both highway and on the trail. I would push it up to 220F and then stop to cool down. It would cool down within about 15 minutes. On the highway my speeds would stay at 35-40mph pulling the camper up the hills which I feel is enough speed to be pushing more air through than the fans can pull. On flat ground with the camper in tow running 65mph the temps would stay at around 195F. This is with outside temps of 90-95F. And this was all towing the camper. I only drove a little on the highway this weekend without the camper and the truck was still heating up on hill climbs just not as quickly as with the camper.

So I think I could solve the trail overheating with bigger fans and shrouding the entire radiator. I'm just at a loss for the highway cooling. I should be maximizing the air flow through a pretty large radiator and it still doesn't keep up. I wanted to add AC, but then it would really be struggling.

I too have thought about moving the trans cooler away from the radiator. @muddysub did this in his burb and I think it has been working well for him. My trans temps are not going out of control like the engine, which I'm happy about. I just don't want it to become a problem by messing with things.

It's interesting you are having the idle cooling issues because one of my other next step ideas was to install a mechanical fan and shroud. I was worried the idle/trail temps would become a problem and based on your experience that could very well happen.

I did notice in my searching and looking at factory 454 fan components there apparently was a factory electric fan that would be installed on the AC condenser. So maybe not surprising that you're using an electric pusher fan with your mechanical fan setup.

I'm also thinking I want to try adding an engine oil cooler but again this will need to be mounted somewhere other than in front of the radiator.

I didn't have this trouble for the first year I had the Holley Sniper setup on the motor, my troubles began with the 4l80e install. So I bet your problem is probably coming from the addition of AC and not from the FiTech.

Don't know if my post is of any help, but thought maybe we could at least compare notes and commiserate. :D


Sounds like our experience is about the same, the windstars just dont cut it for my truck on the freeway with my current setup.

I am really thinking of moving the trans cooler and adding a second 2100cfm pusher fan. At that point i literally have the same 4000cfm as the windstar fans plus my giant mechanical fan. That should give me the best of both worlds.
 
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Have you tried any of the coolant additives? There's one I know tons of people swear by based on Amazon reviews and forums I've read. I can't remember which one it is but I keep thinking I should give it a shot and see what happens.

By the way, thanks for including those measurements on your trans cooler mounting idea. I was wanting to figure out if my cooler would fit there too. Seems like a good idea.
 
Have you tried any of the coolant additives? There's one I know tons of people swear by based on Amazon reviews and forums I've read. I can't remember which one it is but I keep thinking I should give it a shot and see what happens.

By the way, thanks for including those measurements on your trans cooler mounting idea. I was wanting to figure out if my cooler would fit there too. Seems like a good idea.
Yeah ive done water wetter and the other one . Zero changes.

Im really thinking this may be the way to go.

Ive had my big radiator rebuilt,
new hoses,
Additives,
New fan ,
New fan clutch,
New shroud,
Windstar fans,
1 push with mechanical fan,
Performance water pump and thermostat,

Im forgetting stuff lol

All i can think now is getting anything in the grill area out of there so i have 100% flow and sealing any gaps so air has to push through it.

And like a said before, moving the trans cooler would give me the option to add another heavy duty pusher if needed.
 
Sounds like about the only thing you can try next. The only thing I have that you don't is the hood louvers.
 
Sounds like about the only thing you can try next. The only thing I have that you don't is the hood louvers.
That thought has crossed my mind...

Well shoot....
I still need to drive this thing to see if this upgraded pusher fan helped at all. Under normal driving conditions
 
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