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"death wobble"

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i had that problem with my 10 bolts found that the pins that align the axle and springs where broken it helps when the axle isn't walking around on you /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
 
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10 bolts do not 'death wobble'
it is a 60 thing
 
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10 bolts do not 'death wobble'
it is a 60 thing

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haha, they do if you have a bad tire...
 
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I have a stock Jimmy with 10 bolts and after I put 35 X 14"s on it has developed a wild death wobble
It is due to poor tire condition I am fairly sure (old and bald , out of round?)
I know from dealing with it , that it is also a 10 bolt thing /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif
As far as I know the front end is tight /forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
 
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a bad tire wobble ISNT death wobble
get your own handy catch phrase
 
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you didnt believe the first 4 guys?
stubborn
 
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Yes boys "death wobble" is a condition which was seemingly from out of no where when the rest of the truck was in perfect condition, ie. good tires, bearings, tight bolts and the such. The way the king pin preload is set on the Dana 60 axle causes this condition, not anything else.
 
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I had 2 different sets of tires on my 10 bolt and had death wobble with each of them. I also have it with my D60 now. Allignment DOES changes how/when it happens on both axles. I have proven that my self on my own truck. It is NOT just a D60 thing however it is more common of a problem with those axles. Now since the post had to do with a 10 bolt and death wobble why dont you guys either go back on topic and help the guy or just keep your mouths shut! /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
 
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excuse me, netnanny.

it isnt 'death wobble'.
there is something worn out on his balljoint axle.
'death wobble' is a springloaded kingpin related problem that usually rears its ugly head right around 30 mph.
no one can tell him 100% what is worn on his truck without physically checking the vehicle, though a few pointers can be lobbed his way.
that is the topic and no one deviated from it.

now you can add something by explaining in more detail your findings...

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Allignment DOES changes how/when it happens

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what alignment changes did you find that changed "how/when"?
 
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if you run less then 30psi stay off the highways
you will kill the tires in no time
 
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[hijack]

Could someone tell me what death wobble would feel like if it happened to a truck I was driving? Would I feel it in the sreering? Does it just shake the truck? Up and down or side to side? Just curious, thanks /forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

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the front tires violently shake left and right
the fenders start to dip down on every gyration
pedestrians stare with mouths hanging open
traffic around you stops
with mild case like I am having with the 'new' 60 powering out of it is more graceful then a shuddering halt, hard to do in traffic
I love when the pedestrian trys to be helpful in explaining what my tires looked to be doing
 
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Wow, thanks. I'm glad I don't have it /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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I had 2 different sets of tires on my 10 bolt and had death wobble with each of them. I also have it with my D60 now. Allignment DOES changes how/when it happens on both axles. I have proven that my self on my own truck. It is NOT just a D60 thing however it is more common of a problem with those axles. Now since the post had to do with a 10 bolt and death wobble why dont you guys either go back on topic and help the guy or just keep your mouths shut!


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And with that I'm out.......
Ignorance IS bliss, HUH?
 
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Changing toe in and out makes a change as to what speed the "shake" aka Death Wobble happens. I started with my Suburban with stock springs and 35" TSL SX's and it had very horrible death wobble at 20 MPH. So i checked over ball joints and steering and nothing was worn out. Also replaced ball joints after 6 months and i could still get it to death wobble without a steering strabilzer. Changed to 6" front springs and 38" TSL's and STILL had it. Now with a D60, New 40" TSL's, and x-over i also still have it. This isnt a place to be bull headed i was trying to help out with the guy who posted and all anyone wants to do is tell him he is wrong and argue. Everyone has theory behind what death wobble is and i have yet to see a fix all other then ass loads of steering stabilzers or hydro steering. King pins no doubt have an effect but so do other factors.
 
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I read your reply and you are wrong period
The rest of your replies about what death wobble is describe very close what happens to my truck at about 35 mph. to 50mph. , after that it is still there but not as noticable
In my case it gets so violent that the truck will barely hold the road if I don't slow it down or stop it by using the brakes / turn the wheel , or both at the same time
Yes I have had bad tires in the past that separated to the point of failure and none of them were like the death wobble I have in my truck.
So , DW. does exist in the 10 bolt truck scene also , there is no way it is caused by a bad tire alone in my case /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif
Mabey someone will find the fix for it some day , but until then I will have to ride it out /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif
 
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fix your front suspension problem and it will be gone.
 
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m j,

In all fairness to these guys, 10 bolts and 44s can death wobble. I say this because I have experienced death wobble on a 10 bolt, and two dana 60s, so I know EXACTLY what it feels like. When I first bought my K5, I was driving it down the road about 25 or so and boom, death wobble. The fix, two upper balljoints and a steering stabilizer (IIRC the stabilizer alone fixed it, but I knew it was just masking the problem so I also found the balljoints needed replaced to and did so). Now, I have since bought two different one tons (obviously with 60s) and both had death wobble when I bought them. The fix on both was kingpin bushings and springs. I really dont see what the difference is between loose balljoints on a 10 bolt and worn kingpin bushings and springs on a 60. The both allow the knuckle to move in a manner that make drastics changes in camber and caster.
 
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