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Horton, driveshaft opinions wanted

OOOO OOO I like that last idea:D

I am a minimalist when it comes to bumpers and stuff, they add weight and don't do much ( for me at least)

Might do it though just to try to protect the front fenders, it will be a hoop so will help protect the radiator in a roll over too. So it will be fully functional. I decided a while ago everything I do has to serve a purpose. no fluff on this, no extra weight. I still want to get under 4500 lbs with Horton. I don't know if 4500 is possible with the bedsides and fenders and hood.

I need to redo the back seat to save me some weight, cut a touch more off the bedsides, an aluminum fuel cell would help too.

Still a long ways to go but at least this particular phase is going really well
 
really liking the engine cage work so far Eric...Man I think that is one of the best things I like about my cage is the engine compartment!
 
Thanks for all the pictures, it will be way helpful while doing mine very soon hopefully. I also want to keep the front clip looking like a Chevy and hella strong with tube. Yours is shaping up nicely.:waytogo:
Will you or are you going to be able to drop the hood any? I'm gonna try and have it just barely clear the oil filler on the 6.2 and shorten it so to get as much of a view as possible out front. Also thinking about putting some expanded metal in part of the floor boards to aid in seeing both tires.
 
Absolutely, half the reason I keep the (HEAVY) bedsides is because it makes it look like a Chevy.

I want it to look like a Chevy still so running fenders for sure.

I might make em quick release and not run em all the time.

Oh who am I kidding no I won't. They will stay on.

I want my truck to still look like what it started as.

I have come as close to looking like a buggy as I want to come. I ran with fenders for a couple years before I smashed them into bits and the cool thing about running fenders is I can use just about the most rusted out piece of crap fender out there, I cut most of it away anyway, its good bodywork practice too to mod em, cause I cut em and add a bit to have the first bit be straight.

In fact I think I am going to put new fenders on this time, the old ones are pretty smashed.

Might even add a bumper up front to help protect said new fenders


Yah once I narrow the front, I'll see what happens. :whistle::whistle:
 
So got a bit more done.

I know lots of pics of boring things really but it helps keep me motivated.

Got the coolers mounted

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That pic also shows the extra front bracing that I have done so far

Now onto the question for me. I put the shroud on, it fits, not really, since I moved the rad towards the rear of the rig, it also moved it up. I moved it as far back as I could without interfering with the steering box or doing major frame mods to drop it down.

so I cut most of the bottom of the shroud out, The full top is still there, the fan blades are basically about 4" to low now.

So the top of the fan blade is a couple inches below the top of the shroud and the bottom of the fan is lower than the lowest portion of the fan blade.

Here is the pics

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So basically I have always been of the any shroud is better than no shroud camp. So I am inclined to leave it and switch to a windstar fan at a later date.

What do you guys think, worth the shroud on there or not doing enough to help at all?
 
How far are the blades in/out of the shroud, shoot for 50% each way if you can.
If this is temporary, pop rivet some tin around the opening on the top to close the gap up. Maybe take a big truck mudflap to extend the shrouded area on the bottom side.
Think a couple gussets on the tubes where they meet the radiator hoop would be good???
 
How far are the blades in/out of the shroud, shoot for 50% each way if you can.
If this is temporary, pop rivet some tin around the opening on the top to close the gap up. Maybe take a big truck mudflap to extend the shrouded area on the bottom side.
Think a couple gussets on the tubes where they meet the radiator hoop would be good???

See sometimes I just need another idea, I should be able to pop rivet some sort of something or other on there. Its about 4" off center maybe 3.5".

Its like doing a body lift I suppose.

There is going to be some more tube work done up in the engine bay and some gusseting and things going on in the front.

Just getting the basics done for now
 
I think id just get an electric fan eric, it looks like theres not much of that bottom shroud left and its not going to do its job the way you want. Unless you could make up something out of sheet metal that would center the shroud circle with the center of the fan.. That would look sick out of some galv sheet btw, throw some nice bends in, little rivet action for looks....:D
 
I was kind of thinking about exactly what you did the other day, mount the radiator to the frame and then skin out the front

How much weight do you think it saved?
 
I think id just get an electric fan eric, it looks like theres not much of that bottom shroud left and its not going to do its job the way you want. Unless you could make up something out of sheet metal that would center the shroud circle with the center of the fan.. That would look sick out of some galv sheet btw, throw some nice bends in, little rivet action for looks....:D

Thats kind of how you make a shroud there Adam :haha::haha:

I have seriously thought about electric fans. Windstars seem to work awesome for most folks. But I hate the noise they make, seem to be superloud at idle.

The engine driven fan is super simple too, probably switch to a flex fan if I keep the mechanical fan.

Might even put a couple fans in front on the coolers, I will have plenty of room, although a properly built shroud will help channel air through them too
 
Thats kind of how you make a shroud there Adam :haha::haha:

You could tack it ya jerk!!! (rivets are just cooler looking lol)
And I thought u said the fan was now lower on the rad, and i meant center the circle lower on the rad if possible and box the rest of the rad in. :flipoff7:

Just didnt know if you were capable of such a task :D
 
I was kind of thinking about exactly what you did the other day, mount the radiator to the frame and then skin out the front

How much weight do you think it saved?

Over a complete front? I bet 275 lbs maybe even 300 or so

Off my front end about 35 lbs overall. I could have dropped a bit more weight but I don't feel like cutting out the ridiculous winch mount. So I am just adding to it.

But more important I am getting the winch back and the rad back where I want it. Getting solid mounts for all of it and stiffening up the front of the frame.

Oddly enough it will be way easier to build inner wheel wells now too.
 
And I thought u said the fan was now lower on the rad, and i meant center the circle lower on the rad if possible and box the rest of the rad in. :flipoff7:

That was what I was talking about doode :D:D

Yah if I build a shroud it will be angled so the that the fan is completely enclosed so the top and bottom will both angle down, instead of the top angling down and the bottom angling up.

The whole point it to make sure you fan isn't just throwing air all over the place, so the shroud is only to direct the flow, even if the fan isn't centered the fact that the shroud is there will help direct the airflow. Plus with a shroud the velocity of the air coming through is greater
 
Well then stop insulting me for restating the obvious and get to work on it dammit!!!:D:thumb:
 
Lookin' good Eric. I like that grille you got going on there.
 
Ok and so how much work did it take to build a shroud and what do you do when you do in deep water and how much horse power did you save.............. do I need to go on?
 
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