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Hydro assist on the cheap...Under $100

79k20350 said:

Yes assist is equal and just compare specs on the ram. Some rams are better then others but the specs tell the story not the appilcation they are listed for.
 
My stuff just showed up today..
ram1.jpg

ram.jpg


I should have it bolted up and running in the next couple days. I'll take more pics as I go. :)
 
KidJethro said:
Just ordered the stuff for my assist..

Ram- 1.5x8x1
http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2005122900455966&item=9-6645&catname=hydraulic

Hose- Ordered 3, one for a spare. 48"
http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2005122900455966&item=916-1448&catname=hydraulic

Fittings-

4 of these- 2 for the box, 2 for the ram
http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2005122900475917&item=9-1501-4-4

2 of these- adapter to attach the hose to the ram
http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2005122900475917&item=9-6405-4-4

Total cost $87.93.

This is the 1.5x8x.75" ram-
http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2005122900530328&item=9-4410-08&catname=hydraulic

I've been researchng this assist thing quite a bit the last few days, and have read about the problems with the 1.5" bore rams. However all the problems I've read about are concerning the 1.5 bore ram with a .75" diameter rod. I'm hoping the larger 1" diameter rod helps to stop the possible bending and resulting leaks. There is a larger difference in the push/pull specs between the two rams- The 1" ram- Push/Pull 5290/2940 lbs. The .75 ram- Push/Pull 3,350/2,650 lbs. The steering force with .75 ram would be closer to equal both left and right...But the 1" ram has a higher rating all the way around. It'll be quite a bit stronger 1 way than the other vs the .75 ram, but still stronger than the .75 ram in both directions.

As far as speed, the one 1" I ordred might be slower than the .75" ram, but should still be faster than the 2" rams, most of which have 1.125" rods.

I learned alot from this thread on Pirate- Including the link to the SurplusCenter stuff.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=352276&highlight=hydro+assist

Obviously, I'm going to port and tap my own box, and fab the mounts myself. Probably try the radiator hose method for more fluid capacity. If I'm not happy with how it works with a new, stock style pump, then I''ll probably start experimenting a bit with some of the flow/pressure mods on the WTO website. I have a new spare pump in addition to the almost new one on my truck, so I have some room to play. :)

Whatever happens, its gotta be better than trying to turn 42's on a Detriot locked 60 wth the stock setup. :eek1:


how much will this help if i dont have crossover yet
 
what about a inexpensive cylindar that has the joints on the ends... and has the hose ends/connectors facing the correct way (up)...

The joints are probably extra crappy and will be sloppy out of the box and only get worse as time goes on.

I used basically the exact ram that kidjethro did, its worked fine for me for several years.
 
Good Reading for new guys and people that can't/don't search:D
LOL thanks! 1st time reading this thread. I will definitly be referring back to it, I think with 42s a detroit and drive flanges, I will need hydro assist.
 
The joints are probably extra crappy and will be sloppy out of the box and only get worse as time goes on.

I used basically the exact ram that kidjethro did, its worked fine for me for several years.

I like the idea of the joints being there... :wink1:
I'll do some googleing and see what i can find... :crazy:
 
instead of cutting off the end a turning 90*.....couldnt you weld a large bolt to the axel sticking straight out(instead of 2 tabs sticking out,w/bolt up and down thru the ram mount), and slip the rams eye over it, then use a washer & nut

kinda like a 2wd coilspring panhard bolt
 
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