Dex 6 is fine to run, it may smooth the shifts a tad, but it will be minor.
Are you running Dex 3 or Type F?
Are you running Dex 3 or Type F?
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LSX454 swapped 95 BASS burb.
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Little lower, little cooler, bigger sounds.
I've been kicking around building a sequential MPFI 496 for this thing for a long time.
I've been crunching numbers.
To get where I want on that BBC Chevy in N/A for im looking at around $12k.
I'd have this LS to put in my olds, which would cost me another $2500 easy after all said and done.
So $15k
Or,
A 415 stroker kit for this thing,
A twin screw supercharger,
And a set of AFR heads.
$12k
Sell the GEN 6 BB, full harness, and a 4l80e of buyers choice
-$2k
So, $10k.
But more power.
Plus I can do it in 2-3 stages.
And still be $2500 to rebuild the stock stuff the olds has, but add a cam and 4bbl.
It actually seems to make more sense to stay with what I got and improve as needed.
Now that I'm used to how it drives and being able to do burnouts, I'm good with power for now
Sucks I destroyed a beautiful 4x4 burb to get that BB and now I'm contemplating just selling it
I've been crunching numbers.
To get where I want on that BBC Chevy in N/A for im looking at around $12k.
I'd have this LS to put in my olds, which would cost me another $2500 easy after all said and done.
So $15k
Or,
A 415 stroker kit for this thing,
A twin screw supercharger,
And a set of AFR heads.
$12k
Sell the GEN 6 BB, full harness, and a 4l80e of buyers choice
-$2k
So, $10k.
But more power.
Plus I can do it in 2-3 stages.
And still be $2500 to rebuild the stock stuff the olds has, but add a cam and 4bbl.
It actually seems to make more sense to stay with what I got and improve as needed.
Now that I'm used to how it drives and being able to do burnouts, I'm good with power for now
Sucks I destroyed a beautiful 4x4 burb to get that BB and now I'm contemplating just selling it
A lot of us already have a sequential injected 496: https://ck5.com/forums/threads/l18-8-1l-swap-resource-thread.308019/
I looked at those, but like the versatility and aftermarket of the Gen VI
Plus, with the bore /stroke combo those use, they're better suited to pulling a bulldozer than doing 7000rpm burnouts...lol.
But, it would be a much faster/cheaper way to get to a MPFI 496.
Plus, with the bore /stroke combo those use, they're better suited to pulling a bulldozer than doing 7000rpm burnouts...lol.
But, it would be a much faster/cheaper way to get to a MPFI 496.
Yes, all true. 2 completely different categories. For argument's sake, I will say that the 8.1 just doesn't have to get to high RPM to do burnouts. Basically, whatever the LS will do, but one gear higher 
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.So... I may officially be done with my transmission dude.
Kinda not thrilled with him.
I decided since it's a relatively new trans, I'd change the filter and fluid like you would an engine after break in.
The pan gasket was the original factory unit with the metal rings to keep it from being over squished and was rusted to the pan.
The sealing surface on the transmission was all covered in grime and had clearly not been cleaned off at all.
I sent it with the speed sensors in the side still, and assumed they would be replaced.
They are still the old ones and are leaking.
I went over there yesterday to ask a few things and have him ride along and see what he thinks on the shifting and such.
Should I raise or lower pressure at the individual shift points, etc.
And for the first half hr he treated me like any given moron off the street.
I've known this dude for 20 years or more and had multiple transmissions done there. We've just sat in his shop and talked about cars for hrs before.
I asked him about switching to dex 6 and that I had heard it may raise my stall speed some.
He blurted out "big foot exists and monkeys may fly out of my butt", or some chit similar. I kind of went red for a half second so it may have been slightly different, but you get the point.
I just asked a question.
Then I mentioned that my stall speed catches just a little sooner than what I expected and he said "yeah. That's because you ordered your converter wrong. Your engine doesn't put out near what you think it does. You wouldn't believe how many people think they have 500hp and don't even have 300. You need more motor"
He was basically calling me stupid and I felt belittled.
I brushed past that, got him to do the ride, and he sort of ate his words a little at about the 1-2 WOT shift point. But still.
Then I take this apart today and find all this.
Just not happy at the moment.
Dude used to be cool as F, and did a great job.
Super fair and reliable.
Maybe 25 years of dealing with Joe public has salted him. But he knows me and should have known better.......
Anyway, rant off.
Kinda not thrilled with him.
I decided since it's a relatively new trans, I'd change the filter and fluid like you would an engine after break in.
The pan gasket was the original factory unit with the metal rings to keep it from being over squished and was rusted to the pan.
The sealing surface on the transmission was all covered in grime and had clearly not been cleaned off at all.
I sent it with the speed sensors in the side still, and assumed they would be replaced.
They are still the old ones and are leaking.
I went over there yesterday to ask a few things and have him ride along and see what he thinks on the shifting and such.
Should I raise or lower pressure at the individual shift points, etc.
And for the first half hr he treated me like any given moron off the street.
I've known this dude for 20 years or more and had multiple transmissions done there. We've just sat in his shop and talked about cars for hrs before.
I asked him about switching to dex 6 and that I had heard it may raise my stall speed some.
He blurted out "big foot exists and monkeys may fly out of my butt", or some chit similar. I kind of went red for a half second so it may have been slightly different, but you get the point.
I just asked a question.
Then I mentioned that my stall speed catches just a little sooner than what I expected and he said "yeah. That's because you ordered your converter wrong. Your engine doesn't put out near what you think it does. You wouldn't believe how many people think they have 500hp and don't even have 300. You need more motor"
He was basically calling me stupid and I felt belittled.
I brushed past that, got him to do the ride, and he sort of ate his words a little at about the 1-2 WOT shift point. But still.
Then I take this apart today and find all this.
Just not happy at the moment.
Dude used to be cool as F, and did a great job.
Super fair and reliable.
Maybe 25 years of dealing with Joe public has salted him. But he knows me and should have known better.......
Anyway, rant off.
That's pretty normal. Converter holds a couple of quarts, the inner passages holds some, cooler and lines, etc.On a separate note, I dropped the pan and only got 5 qts out.
It took 13 to fill it....
I figured I'd have gotten at least 8 out
If its only one time out of 20 you might of just caught him in a bad mood, who knows. Although not replacing the pan gasket on a rebuild is quite lacking. Makes you wonder what else didn't get replaced.
I'd switch to Dex 6 and enjoy it. I wouldn't expect a big change, but you might notice a minor change in shifting.
I'd switch to Dex 6 and enjoy it. I wouldn't expect a big change, but you might notice a minor change in shifting.
I didn’t even know you could buy dex 3 on the shelf.
Yeah. He was better by the time I left. Still not cool. But the gasket thing makes me question the whole rebuild.
It has been almost 4 years since I’ve done a burn out. I need to put some of those back in my life.
I don't know what you paid, so hard to pass judgement. An auto has several hundred parts and nobody cares about your stuff like you do. I'm not a real trans guy, but I've rebuilt several, sometimes inventing stuff along the way. People hear this and say, "oh can you fix mine", as though they've completely missed the situation. Nobody would be willing to pay me a fair hourly wage for the time it takes me to do this stuff. Just like drywall. Yeah, it looks flat, but no-one in their right mind would hire me to do the same for them at any decent wage.So... I may officially be done with my transmission dude.
Kinda not thrilled with him.
I think eventually there are only 3 categories:
- I need this crap to run (at least for a little while) at the lowest cost/ fastest time possible.
- I'm willing to write a giant check for everything to be 100%.
- I'm going to spend a million hours.
I've kind of chilled on it a bit.
Dude has an odd sense of humor and he's one of the ones with very hard to read facial expressions.
I was there at 7:45 in the morning, and he was busy in the back changing light bulbs in the shop.
3 of his hired dudes watching him.
So he may have been slightly pissy as I may have been in that situation lol.
I've talked to him since amd all was good.
As for the leak and non changed sensors.... That still bugs me.
To me, a nearly $3000 'REBUILD', means changing all solenoids and sensors. Because they sound like wear items to me.
Maybe that's not normal practice.
I just assumed the speed sensors would be changed, and he did point out the old ones were still in there when I picked it up.
I have new ones and they'll go in over the winter.
Dude has an odd sense of humor and he's one of the ones with very hard to read facial expressions.
I was there at 7:45 in the morning, and he was busy in the back changing light bulbs in the shop.
3 of his hired dudes watching him.
So he may have been slightly pissy as I may have been in that situation lol.
I've talked to him since amd all was good.
As for the leak and non changed sensors.... That still bugs me.
To me, a nearly $3000 'REBUILD', means changing all solenoids and sensors. Because they sound like wear items to me.
Maybe that's not normal practice.
I just assumed the speed sensors would be changed, and he did point out the old ones were still in there when I picked it up.
I have new ones and they'll go in over the winter.
As an after report, for future info....
YES, going to dex VI did in fact raise my stall speed it seems.
Here's what I did and what I seen.
Dropped the pan,('gasket deal is still my only real peave), and changed the filter.
It took 13 qts to initially fill it, and I got 5 out doing that.
Added a drain plug in the pan. Put it back together and the 5 of dex VI in.
Drove it about 30 miles. Pulled the drain plug, and got 4.5 mixed out.
Re filled with dex VI.
Standing stop pedal mash catches full in about 2850-2890.
Before was almost exactly 2700-2750.
So it works, but not much lol.
YES, going to dex VI did in fact raise my stall speed it seems.
Here's what I did and what I seen.
Dropped the pan,('gasket deal is still my only real peave), and changed the filter.
It took 13 qts to initially fill it, and I got 5 out doing that.
Added a drain plug in the pan. Put it back together and the 5 of dex VI in.
Drove it about 30 miles. Pulled the drain plug, and got 4.5 mixed out.
Re filled with dex VI.
Standing stop pedal mash catches full in about 2850-2890.
Before was almost exactly 2700-2750.
So it works, but not much lol.
That's more than I though you would see. Are the shifts a tad smoother?
