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M1010 K30 -- Budget build (Back from the dead and considering 54" springs...)

The point of that bend is to twist the draglink so it falls in the center of the crossmember. I had always thought it was to help with angles but after 10min on the phone with WFO I learned otherwise.

Rotate it so the bend is on an angle that places the draglink in the center of the crossmember channel at its closest point and I bet it dont hit anything.
 
I think 8,25" shackles are a little too long with crossover and long soft springs.
But I am not an expert :crazy:
 
I agree on the shackles. I have 7.25" shackles and they contribute to some of the lateral movement I have. I am in the middle of replacing the frame bushings and 9/16 bolts from DIY. We'll see if that helps some.

One note. Is your steering arm bolted down on top of your kingpin cap? That should be bolted directly to the knuckles machined surface for a proper clamp. It may work fine, but could loosen up easier without that friction between the two machined surfaces. Maybe cut down and weld that kingpin cap on top of the arm.

Just my .02

Great Build :wink1:
 
Fred_M1010 said:
The spring bushings are all new stock rubber bushings, but they seemed to deflect pretty much as well,
What do you think guys, should I go poly there as well...?
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I just did the poly bushings on the front shackle hangers..... Huge improvement with the lateral movement. I have nearly the same setup with 52's for front springs, 42" tires and crossover. This is what i went with: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ENS-3-2111G/
 
Ronnie4wd said:
I think 8,25" shackles are a little too long with crossover and long soft springs.
But I am not an expert :crazy:
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Problem is, thats the shortest length I could fit, without risking it touching the frame (see page1).

MTBLAZER89 said:
One note. Is your steering arm bolted down on top of your kingpin cap? That should be bolted directly to the knuckles machined surface for a proper clamp. It may work fine, but could loosen up easier without that friction between the two machined surfaces. Maybe cut down and weld that kingpin cap on top of the arm.
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Yeah, that was my original plan, but I got sloppy :o
I'll probably do that later...
Hopefully before it breaks :rolleyes:

hmatiak said:
I just did the poly bushings on the front shackle hangers..... Huge improvement with the lateral movement. I have nearly the same setup with 52's for front springs, 42" tires and crossover. This is what i went with: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ENS-3-2111G/
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Are you sure that is what you used, they seems to be for stock front springs, and not include the shackle bushings.
Besides I think I need custom ones for the shackle anyway, since I'll probably upgrade to 9/16" bolt.
And one of my 56" main leafs had a smaller bushing in one end :confused:
 
Fred_M1010 said:
Are you sure that is what you used, they seems to be for stock front springs, and not include the shackle bushings.
Besides I think I need custom ones for the shackle anyway, since I'll probably upgrade to 9/16" bolt.
And one of my 56" main leafs had a smaller bushing in one end :confused:
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It is indeed. I has a few applications and its for the front upper shacke hanger. Comes with 4 bushings and 2 sleeves.
 
I took your advice and got the shackle bushings from Summit.
I changed the sleeve though to one with a slightly bigger inner diameter, so I could fit a class12.9 M12 bolt.
It's a little stronger than a 1/2" grade 8 bolt, and much stronger than the stock 7/16" bolt

While not perfect, it handles way better now :D
But if I would do it all again, I would get poly bushings for the spring eyes as well though.
 
This week I've had some time to wrench on the K30 again.

I took the bed from an K10 parts-truck I've got.
It's badly rusted, but it will have to do for the time being.


Since I don't plan on keeping that bed for long, I mounted the diesel-tank temporary with cargo-straps through the floor


Next thing on my list of things to do, was a hidden winch-mount
So this evening I've been sitting in front of the truck, and test fitting the winch between the frame-rails


To be continued....
 
Is the front shackle angle bad? I did the same swap and mine looks like that and I was wondering if it is?
 
I don't think the angle in it self is a problem.
People seems to get hung up on that, but as long as you can fully compress and decompress the leafs without the shackle locking/flipping or touching the frame,
I say it's OK.

The length however is another deal.
The side-stability of the axle decreases with longer shackles, and that is very noticeble with crossover steering.
(It tends to move the axle before turning the wheels)
But I believe that problem could be adressed with poly-bushings in the spring-eyes as well as the shackle mounts.
And in worst case a panhard-bar
 
How many leafs are in your front packs? I did the exact swap but my 7" shackles are closer to the frame then yourss are.
 
I've got five leafs (no overload) in the front.
Because of the reinforcement in my shackles, I couldn't make them any shorter than 8.25", without it touching the frame when compressed
But I think tying (sp?) the shackle parts together is more important than shackle-length when it comes to side-stability of the axle.

Another thing that probably will help is hydro-assist, if it's properly set up.

Btw. How does yours handle on the road?
 
So I need longer shackles. Ill try that haha. Mine is a yard gnome as I am laid off. But once I get to working again its game on.
 
Now I've spent some nights in the garage/barn trying to figure out how the heck to make a good winch-mount.

The winch by the way is a Chinese 12000lbs, called Runhua (or Runva depending in what country you're in) EWP12000,
but with the motor from a 10000lbs winch (it wouldn't fit easely otherwise)
It has a two-speed gear-box.

First I did a litle clearance-cutting of the frame, just to get the winch in there


I've been pondering several ideas, first I thought about cutting the frame-horns and welding on a new crossmember in the front.
But I wanted to keep the stock CUCV bumper-brackets, and I also wanted to be able to remove the mount if needed.

One thought I had, was to weld it to the bumper-brackets only.
But I didn't think that would be strong enough, since there would be nothing holding it in the lower parts :thinking:

That was until I saw the Winch-cradle from Twizted engineering:
http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=254093

Then I realized I could use the antisway-bar mounts :thumb:

What material to use?
What do you think, angle-iron of course:D

First I placed one up on top, to see where the winch would end up.




It soon looked like a big jigsaw-puzzle:screwy:




I then made some angles to tie it together in the front corners


These braces will be bolted to the winch-mount up front, so I can remove them when I need to remove the winch


Now all it needs is some more trimming, and a slab of paint :)

I will also relocate the control-box up in the engine compartment.
 
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that does look great! im in the planning stages of the same thing, and i think im sold:D...do you have any other pics?
 
that thing's a monster! i dig it.


is it wrong that i also liked the ambulance? way too redneck to drive around an old ambulance tho, or is it. . . :D
 
gotta say, the ambulance looks like some truck from an 80's horror movie.

me, im a fan of the body though, its kinda like the redneck chalet. i wouldnt mind having one as a hunting/camping rig. but hard to argue with the awesome work that has transpired on the truck thus far :bow:

Although as cool as your truck is, im looking around your shop, with all the lathes and scrap parts, and equipment...... i fell like jack nicholson as the joker, and youre batman..... "where do you get such wonderful toys????"
 
Thanks for all the kind words!

I did have a little regret about gutting it up (and still do :blush:).
I've spent more than one night drinking beer with my friends back in the ambulance-compartment.
Yeah, we're rednecks, no use in denying it :blush: ;)

If I'll ever find another one I'll buy it and keep it stock

About the tools and stuff, thats a perk with being a farmer, as it's all tax deductible :D
And I never throw anything away, hence all the scrap-metal :D

(Edit: The lathe and mill are not mine though, they are from a shop where a friend of mine work.)


Hopefully I will finish it up tonight, then I can snap some more pics
 
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