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Phil's '88 Big Blue Build Thread
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The pinion has a number scribed in it, like +3 or -1
If his pinion and yours have the same scribe number, it may pattern correctly without pulling bearings or shims. Don't hold breath though.
More than likely you will need to separate the pinion bearings and reshim
CarrierOn the pinion? Sounds like you're talking about the carrier.
He has a fine carrier, I think I'll just send him the ring.
Pinion may or may not get separated on my end.
I can pull that apart, no worries.
As the trailer is still in occasional use, I hafta have something to plug that hole with.
We are talking 14 B full float right?
If Ethan's bearings are fine no need the pull anything apart. Pull the pinion and pinion bearing support as a unit. No need for carrier bearing shims as the 14 B is adjusted with side adjustors not shims.
Also the shims go under the bearing support assembly. Super easy.
To get away without the very expensive dial indicator torque wrench use an inch lb beam bender. It will suffice to read rotating torque
Also used gears pretty much ignore the drive side
If Ethan's bearings are fine no need the pull anything apart. Pull the pinion and pinion bearing support as a unit. No need for carrier bearing shims as the 14 B is adjusted with side adjustors not shims.
Also the shims go under the bearing support assembly. Super easy.
To get away without the very expensive dial indicator torque wrench use an inch lb beam bender. It will suffice to read rotating torque
Also used gears pretty much ignore the drive side
Yes, 14b ff, out of a 77 1 ton SRW. I have to move spring perches.
And I wish to hell I understood more of what you just said.
The pinion fits into its own casting on these axles. This front snout can be removed without messing with the pinion, bearings, seal, or yoke. You can undo the 6 bolts on your pinion support and bolt mine into place, assuming the hardware is in good shape.
Backlash on these axles is set using adjusters that move the carrier bearings back and forth. So setting up one of these axles can be a bunch easier than doing your front 8.5" 10-bolt.
Cool, if you understand, then I'll buy from you what you send, and I'll ask questions about installing it. hahaha. I'll be doing some reading tomorrow.
Oh, good. That means I'm not as crazy as I thought.
I'm not an expert, Eric is the guru here.
You can get a decent guide with pictures by reading the axle section of the CUCV maintenance manual. Make sure you read the section for the appropriate axle, 10-bold rebuilding instructions are also in there.
No just me. I finally went to bed, I wasn't even making sense to me
Alright, @Phil513. This is what I have.
Ring gear does have some rust. Not sure if this is a problem or not, but either way I want you to know that ahead of time.
Ring gear and carrier were removed 3ish years ago and have been sitting in that paper bag wrapped in a plastic bag. The plastic bag tore (
), I think that's why it rusted. The pinion was removed a couple days ago.
If you decide you want them I will remove the ring gear and keep the carrier. Would also like to keep the pinion support, but I can include it if you want it. It supposedly has new bearings (according to the P.O.), but no nut, yoke, or seal. It slides in and out loosely.
I also have a 1410 yoke that came with it that I might part with, too, come to think of it.
Ring gear does have some rust. Not sure if this is a problem or not, but either way I want you to know that ahead of time.
Ring gear and carrier were removed 3ish years ago and have been sitting in that paper bag wrapped in a plastic bag. The plastic bag tore (
), I think that's why it rusted. The pinion was removed a couple days ago.If you decide you want them I will remove the ring gear and keep the carrier. Would also like to keep the pinion support, but I can include it if you want it. It supposedly has new bearings (according to the P.O.), but no nut, yoke, or seal. It slides in and out loosely.
I also have a 1410 yoke that came with it that I might part with, too, come to think of it.
I'll confess I haven't looked at it much, nor ever rebuilt one of these pinions. I think it has 2 bearings in the the support and a third one in the housing. I have one bearing & a pinion seal (NIB) that came with the truck, the P.O. told me that they went with the pinion, but I never looked into it. As is the pinion is pretty loose, unlike the other gear sets I have swapped around.
Oh, I forgot to mention. The purpose of the pictures is also to get input from folks who know a lot more about gears than I do. Is that surface rust a problem?
@blazinzuk and whoever else wants to provide input.
@blazinzuk and whoever else wants to provide input.
