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Project 82 TCBF -10.13.9 - progress!!!

I say just go 14. Dumping money and time into a 10 bolt is worthless because its gonna break. When it breaks you will probably want to go 14 bolt, so you did a that work on your 10 bolt for nothing.

I broke mine in lo range with very very little throttle applied.


I went 14 bolt with an open diff and wheeled the wee out of it. Now I have a lockright. Its awesome. Things I had to do in 4wd I can now do in 2wd. I also have the peace of mind that I wont break the rear and have to worry about my tire falling off.
 
Yeah, thats what I`m figuring, it seems the best route to take...and is actually more readily available..I feel like an idiot for tossing around pointless ideas....the jury has spoken.
 
BIGBLAZE433 said:
Yeah, thats what I`m figuring, it seems the best route to take...and is actually more readily available..I feel like an idiot for tossing around pointless ideas....the jury has spoken.

So you're going back to a 14 Bolt? Mr. Ben, in this hobby, it's about common sense and dollars. Plan your work, and work your plan. No sense doing things twice. I know you're not a serious mudder, but I hafta agree. Spending dough to build up a 10 bolt when you have access to a 14 at less than the cost is the way to go. You're riding the "everyone make the decision for me" wave again. It's your truck-- Do what YOU want! You have to live with it!

No offense or rebuke dude. Just trying to get you back on course. I'm always here to help.

Manny
 
I just want to take a couple minutes to say a few things. I want to thank the CK5 "critics" for the big reality check. Lesson learned. I want to thank you for not just letting me learn the lesson, but for not letting me learn it the hardway. I`m not sure why, but I guess I was just stubborn about the whole situation. I mean, I`m a guy who has already broken a rear axle, 10b to be specific, the first time I went out wheeling. I don`t even understand why I thought that building up a 10b would work good, especially since I was going to lock it. I just can`t explain it, as it makes no sense to me.

So, thanks again guys!;)

As you could probably guess, the rear axle will now be a 14bff, which, although a 14bsf could be used, the price difference far outweighs the gain in strength, am I wrong?

GMC4W, I just want to say thanks, and if you could, stick around? I may have some Lokar questions for ya:D
 
You seem to have a good handle on what is sensible in my opinion.

Just don't get caught up in the whole 'build your truck and spend all of your money for three years until you are ready to hit the trails scenario'.

A lot of valuable driving experience and trail repair experience can come out of going with the 10bolts, and getting on the trails sooner.

Some of the very best wheelers I've seen were so because of their driving experience, and had little to do with the parts under their truck, because there were no funds for the fancy stuff. In fact most of the best wheelers I know, don't really have an attachment to their rigs, they are mostly stock beaters, that they get for next to nothing. The wheels and tires just get shuffled from one to the next!

I know a lot of the CK5 community come from areas where there is a lot of $ and a lot of professional or nearly so, drivers and rigs around them. I can imagine that develops a sense of envy. And we see a lot of incredible builds here at CK5, but keep in mind these almost always belong to older, 'established' folks, not young guys starting out working part time jobs and relying on a 30 year old truck as their daily transportation.

This may all be way off, but I sense you might be sacrificing a little more than you are comfortable with to get your rig 'up to snuff'. Try not and get too caught up in it all. There is a lot more to life and our hard earned $ then Blazers!
 
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fireplug said:
You seem to have a good handle on what is sensible in my opinion.

Just don't get caught up in the whole 'build your truck and spend all of your money for three years until you are ready to hit the trails scenario'.

A lot of valuable driving experience and trail repair experience can come out of going with the 10bolts, and getting on the trails sooner.

Some of the very best wheelers I've seen were so because of their driving experience, and had little to do with the parts under their truck, because there were no funds for the fancy stuff. In fact most of the best wheelers I know, don't really have an attachment to their rigs, they are mostly stock beaters, that they get for next to nothing. The wheels and tires just get shuffled from one to the next!

I know a lot of the CK5 community come from areas where there is a lot of $ and a lot of professional or nearly so, drivers and rigs around them. I can imagine that develops a sense of envy. And we see a lot of incredible builds here at CK5, but keep in mind these almost always belong to older, 'established' folks, not young guys starting out working part time jobs and relying on a 30 year old truck as their daily transportation.

This may all be way off, but I sense you might be sacrificing a little more than you are comfortable with to get your rig 'up to snuff'. Try not and get too caught up in it all. There is a lot more to life and our hard earned $ then Blazers!
Well said. I've seen guys spend a lot of time and money building a badarse truck only to find out they don't enjoy wheelin' the first time they hit the trail.
 
Ben...

Your just young and excited about your vehicle.. Thats awesome and I remember living and breathing my hotrods when I was younger... Every week I spent $100 to $150 on a part for em... Worked on em till midnight every night...

Your a smart kid overthinking things and exploring all your avenues... I think what you may be learning here is something often scoffed at by young, wisdom...

Internet is amazing isn't it? I sometimes think back to how much different the way we learned and went about things was back when I was young... Keep the faith, your enthuisiasm is great..

Anyway, you know my approach... Overkill is the answer to everything.. I personally think running the gear you have and building what you'd really want on the side is the way to go.... Patience is a virtue afterall...

I'm a fan of 8 lug for more reasons than the obvious... If you decide to go that route, whether it's a 3/4 ton set, or you pick up the 14, and build that while waiting for a 60, just keep it mind for your current or future rim situation..
 
ryoken said:
Anyway, you know my approach... Overkill is the answer to everything.. I personally think running the gear you have and building what you'd really want on the side is the way to go.... Patience is a virtue afterall...

..

I agree.
 
gmc4cw said:
Hey Chas, thanks for sticking around. I got a question for you..I still have the built 700 sitting around waiting to go in, is it possible to just set up my lokar using that tranny? I know you won`t be able to adjust everything, but it would let me put it all together.:confused:
 
Alright guys, here`s what my problem is. I guess I`m just trying to figure out the quickest and easiest way to get it done,and I have since learned that it`s the exact opposite thing I should be doing. For some reason, I wanted it done yesterday, I mean, who doesn`t? and in order to do that, i had to manage the build with the money i have now.I realize now that I`m not going to be able to build this in a week, which for some reason, my mind thought was possible. Last night after I chilled out a bit, I sat down and looked at a few things. In reality, this build isn`t going to be done for a couple months,but for some unexplainable reason I was trying to get it done in a couple days.

The reason for all the jumping around was because I kept finding different ways to go about the build, based on the money i have now. But there`s no reason for me to do that, as it`s not going to done right now, or in the next week for that matter, so I don`t have to plan my build on the money I have RIGHT NOW, instead more so on the money i WILL have later.

With that said, I took a closer look at some things. #1, The used tires I was looking at. After closer examination, and comparison with other pictures, the tires I was looking at are actually around 50% tread. So I thought, why am I getting these. Well my original reason was because they were there, and I could get them cheap and NOW, but since my build won`t be done real fast, why spend money on tires that aren`t going to last long, when over the course of the build, I could easily set aside some of my tax money along with some of my paycheck, and be able to purchase brand new tires. I`m still getting that front axle, as it is a very good deal, and will work quite well for me. I`m in the search of a rear axle, 14bff, but I just have to keep looking because somewhere out there, there`s a good deal waiting for me.

So, the reason for me hopping around alot was because of the fact that, although deep down inside i knew that its nearly impossible, i wanted to get my build done now and fast which forced me to try and make do with the money I had,but, as I said, I have sinced learned, with the help of many CK5ers, that it isn`t the way to go about a build.

phewww I`m done now

Thanks for reading that mumbo jumbo of a post.

-Ben
 
HEY ben this thread is pritty sweet, but i think it needs more pics cause im a pic whore!!!!!!!....lol just kidding bro. ill halfto have u up soon so we canlift the 1 ton!
later homie
LUKE
 
blackblazer717 said:
HEY ben this thread is pritty sweet, but i think it needs more pics cause im a pic whore!!!!!!!....lol just kidding bro. ill halfto have u up soon so we canlift the 1 ton!
later homie
LUKE

Luke!?!?!?!?

Dude long time no see! What have you been up to? Ever finish your SM465 conversion?
 
Chevy305 said:
Luke!?!?!?!?

Dude long time no see! What have you been up to? Ever finish your SM465 conversion?
Thanks for the hi jack glenn:rolleyes:
 
BIGBLAZE433 said:
I still have the built 700 sitting around waiting to go in, is it possible to just set up my lokar using that tranny? I know you won`t be able to adjust everything, but it would let me put it all together.:confused:

I would install all the bracketry on the new trans. set the lever base in the second position back from the front. when you drop your old trans you can drill the hole for the shifter. install the trans, install the shifter lever from top, and crawl back under truck to hook up the linkage. then you do not need to pull the carpet, to get the trans hump out. you will need a friend to work the shifter while you are underneath checking for any binding.

when the shifter is in park you want the arm pointed towards the back. this is so as you are shifting the arm is moving in an arc forward and not up. thats the problem Bear76 was having. In park mine is facing 4 oclock. in low mine is a 7 oclock.

is that as clear as mud?
 
gmc4cw said:
I would install all the bracketry on the new trans. set the lever base in the second position back from the front. when you drop your old trans you can drill the hole for the shifter. install the trans, install the shifter lever from top, and crawl back under truck to hook up the linkage. then you do not need to pull the carpet, to get the trans hump out. you will need a friend to work the shifter while you are underneath checking for any binding.

when the shifter is in park you want the arm pointed towards the back. this is so as you are shifting the arm is moving in an arc forward and not up. thats the problem Bear76 was having. In park mine is facing 4 oclock. in low mine is a 7 oclock.

is that as clear as mud?
that sounds good, if I have any more questions, would you mind a PM?
 

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