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Ryoken's 89 Crew Cab Tubebed build... aka Mutt....
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so.... figured out a cool way to tie the back of my receiver tube forward to the gooseneck...
but I have a question for those that tow often... iirc, my boat trailer setup would be fine with this, or I could even lengthen the safety chains a bit.. but this is more for "all the other trailers" one runs across, car trailers, boat trailers, etc...
do you think it would be an issue having my safety chain holes a couple inches behind/forward of the end of the tube?
like this, so I could go under the lower tube than hook...
the end of the receiver tube would be slightly behind 1/2 way across that 2" tube.. so the holes would probably be 2" or so behind that....
I can't imagine it being an issue, iirc, a lot of the safety chains ya come across are pretty long..
and I REALLY, REALLY don't want to run em on the "impale your shin" side...
tho I suppose I could have a tab/plate come straight out the top of the 2" tube.. next to the receiver, left and right.. that would give it a couple inches.. but I'd rather not, looking to put lights there...
but I have a question for those that tow often... iirc, my boat trailer setup would be fine with this, or I could even lengthen the safety chains a bit.. but this is more for "all the other trailers" one runs across, car trailers, boat trailers, etc...
do you think it would be an issue having my safety chain holes a couple inches behind/forward of the end of the tube?
like this, so I could go under the lower tube than hook...
the end of the receiver tube would be slightly behind 1/2 way across that 2" tube.. so the holes would probably be 2" or so behind that....
I can't imagine it being an issue, iirc, a lot of the safety chains ya come across are pretty long..
and I REALLY, REALLY don't want to run em on the "impale your shin" side...
tho I suppose I could have a tab/plate come straight out the top of the 2" tube.. next to the receiver, left and right.. that would give it a couple inches.. but I'd rather not, looking to put lights there...
Your safety chain spot would be fine.
I can't remember but are you planning on running a 2" or 2.5" receiver? And the hitch that was on my 06 had the chain loops probably 3.5" behind the end of the tube so you should be fine with where you have them drawn.
Fubeca
1/2 ton status
Plus - if you're hitching to random trailers for boat ins and outs and random hauling, you'll need to have some extensions for chains anyway to be safe. Seems like someone is always shortening their chains so it doesn't drag on the ground - but then is way too short for the next truck 
great stuff guys, thanks!! 
I figured it would be fine, ya just hate to go cutting steel for a fockup... 
chain extensions.. never thught of that, makes hella sense tho if your doing it all the time...
I just figured I'd run standard 2".. but maybe I should run 2.5 now that you mention it.. I guess there could be occasions where I'm pulling a bumper pull, big, tri-axle set up or similar...
it's just a different weight capacity correct?
I figured it would be fine, ya just hate to go cutting steel for a fockup...
chain extensions.. never thught of that, makes hella sense tho if your doing it all the time...
I just figured I'd run standard 2".. but maybe I should run 2.5 now that you mention it.. I guess there could be occasions where I'm pulling a bumper pull, big, tri-axle set up or similar...
it's just a different weight capacity correct?
yeah i can't remember the weight rating difference for sure but the 2.5" 2" drop hitch in my Duramax is rated for upwards of 20K Plus nobody can borrow your hitches
So not over 20 like I'd thought but still plenty beefy.
http://www.etrailer.com/Ball-Mounts/Curt/C45456.html
http://www.etrailer.com/Ball-Mounts/Curt/C45456.html
"might as well".... Greg™
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Yes indeed "might as well"
But the receivers are costly! And the aluminum ones are really cool too!
hmmm, that's weird the "forged" ball mounts have a higher weight rating and are cheaper than the welded versions....
yeah, 85 smackers on the low end...
http://www.curtmfg.com/part/45452
yeah, 85 smackers on the low end...
http://www.curtmfg.com/part/45452
It's nice piece of mind for sure though. To me I'd rather spend $100 on the ball and mount than who knows what from a trailer making its bid for freedom on the highway 
oh, no doubt....
I think I have a good plan for this..
the bolt in piece is a "V" tube that goes from a plate bolted under the receiver up to the back of the gooseneck plate...
something kinda like this.... it may end up with 2 x-tubes, depending on how long it is...
I think I have a good plan for this..
the bolt in piece is a "V" tube that goes from a plate bolted under the receiver up to the back of the gooseneck plate...
something kinda like this.... it may end up with 2 x-tubes, depending on how long it is...
Stomis
Professional Amateur
oh, no doubt....
I think I have a good plan for this..
the bolt in piece is a "V" tube that goes from a plate bolted under the receiver up to the back of the gooseneck plate...
something kinda like this.... it may end up with 2 x-tubes, depending on how long it is...
Looks familiar
yup, took your suggestion and ran with it...
it'll just be 1.5 tube btw.... pic makes it look kinda big..
it'll just be 1.5 tube btw.... pic makes it look kinda big..
on a semi aside... getting ready to go to Fazio's Friday to get my alum... if I don't get my taxes, it'll just be the 3 4' x 8's and 2 10'ers of 1" x 2" x 1/8 tube..
but if I do get my taxes, I'll be adding
4' - 3" x 2" x 1/8 tube
4' - 2" x 1.5" tube
that's all the under supports for the coffin floor/decks...
4' - 1/4" x 3" flatbar aka strip steel (bolt-in just pic'd) and
a 4' x 4' of 3/8 plate
the 4' x 4' of 3/8 is for a fab table yay! about time!
I could use a 12" x 12" hunk of the plate for Mutt... so I'm gonna lop a foot off one end (actually I'm gonna price out what Fazio would charge, not looking forward to making a cut like that) ...
so the fab table is going to be 3' x 4'.. that's about as big as I feel I can go in my shop... I'll buy the legs, shelf material, casters and such after I buy the tool boxes..
but if I do get my taxes, I'll be adding
4' - 3" x 2" x 1/8 tube
4' - 2" x 1.5" tube
that's all the under supports for the coffin floor/decks...
4' - 1/4" x 3" flatbar aka strip steel (bolt-in just pic'd) and
a 4' x 4' of 3/8 plate
the 4' x 4' of 3/8 is for a fab table yay! about time!
I could use a 12" x 12" hunk of the plate for Mutt... so I'm gonna lop a foot off one end (actually I'm gonna price out what Fazio would charge, not looking forward to making a cut like that) ...
so the fab table is going to be 3' x 4'.. that's about as big as I feel I can go in my shop... I'll buy the legs, shelf material, casters and such after I buy the tool boxes..
Fubeca
1/2 ton status
I'm very curious about the trailer hitch receiver design and how you are going to integrate it - what bolt-on support etc.
How much weight are you wanting to be able to pull with the bumper hitch?
How much weight are you wanting to be able to pull with the bumper hitch?
well, that V piece is bolted to the gooseneck plate by those 6, 1/2" bolts.. than the other end will be a plate bolted with 6, 1/2" bolts to the underside of the receiver tube section.....
that area will be something like this....
and the red will be welded to that lower tube..
I don't know how much i'll be towing... what's a K5 weigh on a 24' gooseneck?
maybe down the road if I start hauling some boats around, it could be 12 to 15k I suppose from the bumper...
but also at that point, I may have a gooseneck hydro to do the majority of that..
that area will be something like this....
and the red will be welded to that lower tube..
I don't know how much i'll be towing... what's a K5 weigh on a 24' gooseneck?
maybe down the road if I start hauling some boats around, it could be 12 to 15k I suppose from the bumper...
but also at that point, I may have a gooseneck hydro to do the majority of that..
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Fubeca
1/2 ton status
If you are pulling 15,000 - your tongue weight may around 1,800 lbs. Do you think you'll need any additional bracing up to the frame directly above?
All that weight would be pushing mainly through the rear frame mounts onto the top flange of the frame pretty far back from the hitch, running a lot of torque through the back portion of the frame.
If you are thinking of going heavy from the receiver, do you think it may need to be beefier (is that possible?
)
All that weight would be pushing mainly through the rear frame mounts onto the top flange of the frame pretty far back from the hitch, running a lot of torque through the back portion of the frame.
If you are thinking of going heavy from the receiver, do you think it may need to be beefier (is that possible?
)
well, I have no idea when, and even if, I'll ever be pulling 15k from the bumper... literally, I could be around a max of 5 to 8k for the next decade from the bumper.. boats aren't generally very heavy....
keep in mind you have the whole tubebed structure... yes, it is mounted with the 2 pads in the back.. but it's not like it some sort of direct leverage, you have the length of the tubebed helping counter-act that, like a rollcage would..
I'm sure I could run something from the front of the receiver up to the frame up a bit from the ends, or even the winch mount, I just don't see it as something I need to worry about at this point..
keep in mind you have the whole tubebed structure... yes, it is mounted with the 2 pads in the back.. but it's not like it some sort of direct leverage, you have the length of the tubebed helping counter-act that, like a rollcage would..
I'm sure I could run something from the front of the receiver up to the frame up a bit from the ends, or even the winch mount, I just don't see it as something I need to worry about at this point..
