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Time to build a suspension... (looking for input on springs)

1-ton said:
I know someone will disagree, but the GM "push-me-pull-you" steering was one of the things GM got wrong on the design of the square body 4X4 truck. If you look at today's Dodge and Ford 4X4 trucks with solid axle diffs, they both have cross-over steering linkage. The Ford and Dodge engineers did not do that for no reason.
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I understand that push/pull is more susceptible to bump-steer issues. But is there some other benefit that I'm missing? Why should I spend my time & money upgrading the steering if the current setup is working? I assume it will work much worse when I have more articulation up front?
 
I would like cross over but with a 10 bolt waste of money I think! Correct me if i am wrong.
 
bent72 said:
Push pull sucks, Ford abandoned it it decades ago.

My 52s came out of my truck at 145k miles. I drove it to Moab and back, no sway bar. If that's not streetable, someone can buy me a trailer
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You're running 52s up front and Ford 57s in the rear, right? Or am I mixing my trucks up?
 
here is my game plan for my truck 87 K5 4 inch TC EZ rides in garage,took my old rear leaf springs out had them cleaned up painted and this anti squeak pad stuff i got off MCmaster,installed ORD bushings with grease zerk bolts, have DIY4X 4 inch shackle flip in garage and Furd shock towers from ORD in garage.

Now I need 5100 ORD Bilstein shocks and either 315/70/17 or 35x12.5x17's for tires.

This is so far not sure what else might do just yet besides ORD zerk bolts for front also.

I have to be budget minded with wife 2 kids etc
 
brans87 said:
yeah but cross over on 10 bolts ain't cheap and don't see any dana60's for cheap here!
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If I'm patient I can get a D60 for $500-$700 here. But for an overlanding rig with 33" tires it seems like overkill. And I can find other ways to spend $500. :dunno:

Remember, I ran the last overlanding trip on 10-bolts & 28" tires on tired 1/2-ton springs. And that was almost good enough, I don't need 8" of lift and 42" boggers.
 
I just don't want my 10 to break and leave me hanging plus if I break a dana60 I was doing something really stupid in my book.

Understand you want little lift not a mall crawler where you can use it for function!
 
brans87 said:
here is my game plan for my truck 87 K5 4 inch TC EZ rides in garage,took my old rear leaf springs out had them cleaned up painted and this anti squeak pad stuff i got off MCmaster,installed ORD bushings with grease zerk bolts, have DIY4X 4 inch shackle flip in garage and Furd shock towers from ORD in garage.

Now I need 5100 ORD Bilstein shocks and either 315/70/17 or 35x12.5x17's for tires.

This is so far not sure what else might do just yet besides ORD zerk bolts for front also.

I have to be budget minded with wife 2 kids etc
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I'm lost here. Why do you need TC springs if you are reusing your old springs? :dunno:
 
TC EZ ride are for front. My rear springs are still riding good so I just did a full rebuild on them for now to reuse in back.
 
brans87 said:
I just don't want my 10 to break and leave me hanging plus if I break a dana60 I was doing something really stupid in my book.

Understand you want little lift not a mall crawler where you can use it for function!
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Overkill gets expensive. Even my region's cheap D60s still aren't free. I'll gladly upgrade if I ever wind up needing one. Until then I'm happy with what I have. Most of that overlanding trip was run in 2WD with no locker, so I'm not anticipating many front axle miles on this rig.
 
Not likely I will ever get to go to Moab since I live in NC and kids,house etc don't see that trip happen less I win lottery even though I would like to go sometime.
 
I have a 6" super lift setup with the HD springs front and rear on my truck. Seems like a lot of spring for the size truck. Front springs are 600lbs per inch. But my truck is pretty heavy, 6000lbs empty. Is it a little stiff, yes. But anything over 500 or so pounds in the bed and she smooths right out. Anything less then that and it's not even noticed. I've carried about 2000lbs of mulch in the bed and she was a smooth as a caddy. Now I also have bilstein shocks which help a ton. I forget what a I spent on the springs since I bought them 14 years ago.

Now if the rig is always going to be loaded for trips and such it very well maybe worth getting custom springs from ORD. Course knowing about what your final weight will be or close to it is needed for them.

I have crossover on mine and it tracks awesomely. If you need to replace all or most of the parts I would just spend it on crossover.
 
I want to take my kids here and have some fun and it is know to break things on certain trails etc
 
Front hangers pushed forward. I didn't flip sides. Rear hanger in stock place. No aftermarket parts up front
 
KirsL said:
I have a 6" super lift setup with the HD springs front and rear on my truck. Seems like a lot of spring for the size truck. Front springs are 600lbs per inch. But my truck is pretty heavy, 6000lbs empty. Is it a little stiff, yes. But anything over 500 or so pounds in the bed and she smooths right out. Anything less then that and it's not even noticed. I've carried about 2000lbs of mulch in the bed and she was a smooth as a caddy. Now I also have bilstein shocks which help a ton. I forget what a I spent on the springs since I bought them 14 years ago.

Now if the rig is always going to be loaded for trips and such it very well maybe worth getting custom springs from ORD. Course knowing about what your final weight will be or close to it is needed for them.

I have crossover on mine and it tracks awesomely. If you need to replace all or most of the parts I would just spend it on crossover.
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Everyone saying Cross over has a 60 some still have 10 bolts
 
brans87 said:
Everyone saying Cross over has a 60 some still have 10 bolts
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My truck was a k10. Then I put a dana44/14bff combo in, was going to put crossover on that. But before buying those parts I found a screaming good deal on a 60 so I went with that. No reason to not put crossover on a 10 bolt if it fits your needs.
 
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