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3/4 Ton Swap is DONE: **d-shaft question**

Avery why do you have your shocks on upside down? That could lead to body roll and cause an accident since they do not work properly with the valving in the wrong position...............
 
Corey 78K5 said:
Avery why do you have your shocks on upside down? That could lead to body roll and cause an accident since they do not work properly with the valving in the wrong position...............
WTH dude don't mess with me like that...:D
Hmmm shesh I don't know...I always thought they wen't on with the top at the top and the bottom at the bottom...stupid me :wink1:

Actually they don't even really work...the driver's side is completely empty and the passenger side is so low that it has some big air bubbles in it...that might help the ride quality some :)
But that's another chunk of $$$ that'll be spent down the road.
 
Did I miss something? Was that carriage bolt really what you used for your springs?
 
koldsimer said:
Did I miss something? Was that carriage bolt really what you used for your springs?

Uhh yeah...how you missed that I don't know...it's like the entire thread...for some kicks go back and read a while :) Entertaining stuff...
That new centering bolt is beefy though...grade 8 is so much stronger it's not even funny...I was able to torque it down and it pulled the springs into place and didn't even feel like it was going to strip like that carriage bolt did when I tightened it down.
 
Avery4jc said:
WTH dude don't mess with me like that...:D
Hmmm shesh I don't know...I always thought they wen't on with the top at the top and the bottom at the bottom...stupid me :wink1:

Actually they don't even really work...the driver's side is completely empty and the passenger side is so low that it has some big air bubbles in it...that might help the ride quality some :)
But that's another chunk of $$$ that'll be spent down the road.
No I am not messing with you. If your gonna run a truck on the street with 8" of lift the least you could do is make sure the suspension is set up properly and SAFE. There are very few shocks that are designed to run up side down and yours are not. You have a lot to learn Avery...........
 
Avery4jc said:
Uhh yeah...how you missed that I don't know...it's like the entire thread...for some kicks go back and read a while :) Entertaining stuff...
That new centering bolt is beefy though...grade 8 is so much stronger it's not even funny...I was able to torque it down and it pulled the springs into place and didn't even feel like it was going to strip like that carriage bolt did when I tightened it down.

I guess I just couldn't believe it.:D Glad to see you get it fixed!
 
Corey 78K5 said:
No I am not messing with you. If your gonna run a truck on the street with 8" of lift the least you could do is make sure the suspension is set up properly and SAFE. There are very few shocks that are designed to run up side down and yours are not. You have a lot to learn Avery...........

WTF are you guys talking about...since when would the body go at the bottom and the shaft go at the top?
I've seen guys do that but I've never thought anything of it...
That goes against everything I've ever done with shocks...
 
since 99% of shocks are manufactured to go that way. generally the shaft is covered by more sheetmetal though.
 
Avery4jc said:
That goes against everything I've ever done with shocks...

you're 17, and up until today didnt understand the importance of a centerpin in a spring pack. "everything you've ever done with shocks"... :haha: you're joking right?
 
beater_k20 said:
since 99% of shocks are manufactured to go that way. generally the shaft is covered by more sheetmetal though.

"that way" as in the body at the bottom or at the top?
Plus why would it matter? There's going to be an o-ring or seal of some kind at the bottom of the body that the shaft slides through to keep the oil inside of the body from coming out...so why would it matter functionality wise which way they are mounted?
 
Avery4jc said:
"that way" as in the body at the bottom or at the top?
Plus why would it matter? There's going to be an o-ring or seal of some kind at the bottom of the body that the shaft slides through to keep the oil inside of the body from coming out...so why would it matter functionality wise which way they are mounted?
Shocks have valving in them that are different for absorbing the compression and slowing rebound. If the shocks are on upside down then they will not work as designed. Your factory shocks have the shaft on top but it has a sheet metal hat or tube that the body of the shock will slide into making it look the other way around. Here is how I have mine mounted.

pshock1.JPG

Yes I have washers and nuts on them this is from an in-progress photo.

Ira

pshock1.JPG
 
Good job on finally replacing that pin. Remember, the life you save may be your own.
 
Well then, guess we all learn something new every day... It seems I have my front shocks on upside down too, lol

That'll change today, kinda odd that Rancho would have the lettering on the tubes upside down...
 
SierraClassic said:
Well then, guess we all learn something new every day... It seems I have my front shocks on upside down too, lol

That'll change today, kinda odd that Rancho would have the lettering on the tubes upside down...

Exactly...thats what I was thinking...it still doesn't make sense why position would matter...regardless of whether the body is moving up and down over the shaft or the shaft is moving up and down through the body the piston will go through the body in the same order....
 
Avery4jc said:
Exactly...thats what I was thinking...it still doesn't make sense why position would matter...regardless of whether the body is moving up and down over the shaft or the shaft is moving up and down through the body the piston will go through the body in the same order....

It is this nifty little thing called GRAVITY. You obviously have never seen the inner workings of a shock or you would understand shy shocks are uni-directional.

^ that means they only go 1 way vice Bi directional which can go 2 ways or omni directional which can go anyway:D.

There is a floating valve in the end of the piston that actually will change the resistance to the fluid in the shock if it is upside down it will not work properly.

Ira
 
Avery4jc said:
Exactly...thats what I was thinking...it still doesn't make sense why position would matter...regardless of whether the body is moving up and down over the shaft or the shaft is moving up and down through the body the piston will go through the body in the same order....

Think of your shock being filled with oil. If the valving is at the bottom of the tube, then the shock wouldn't function with no oil going through the orifices with it mounted upside down. Now i'm confused. :D
 
24 pages and 238 posts, just for putting in a rear diff:eek1: And it's still not right! I can't wait till the front!!!!It's got steering!!!!!!!!:D
 
This shock thing is freaking me out! I've been searching and can't find anything definate! Looking at pics it's about 50/50 clearly this isn't as common knowledge as some may think... I'm calling some body. The directions don't tell you... :doah:
 

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