Just checked all four of my stock trucks, his shocks are upside down. Yes it will make a difference, the valving has to different for upstroke and down stroke. How much? I don't know.
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3/4 Ton Swap is DONE: **d-shaft question**
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FOR MUD said:24 pages and 238 posts, just for putting in a rear diffAnd it's still not right! I can't wait till the front!!!!It's got steering!!!!!!!!
Read some more buddy...it's done correctly.
EXACTLY...trust me I've worked with shocks for years and unless they are completely different on fullsize rigs then I think this is all BS. Sort of like don't go swimming after eating...mr.smartass said:This shock thing is freaking me out! I've been searching and can't find anything definate! Looking at pics it's about 50/50 clearly this isn't as common knowledge as some may think... I'm calling some body. The directions don't tell you...
So some of you are throwing out some fancy terms but honestly there isn't any difference...the piston will go through the same part of the body at the same stroke length regardless of whether it's upside down or right side up.
Either the body is pushing around the shaft or the shaft is pushing into the body...either way it's the same thing.
Anyone have a clear answer on this? I'm open...I'm not saying that someone is wrong...I just don't think it matters.
EDIT: I just saw ForMud's post and it has the first thing that makes sense...so the valving is different for the up stroke vs. the down stroke...that has some logic behind it.
sandawgk5
3/4 ton status
Avery4jc said:
I am pretty sure I said the same ****ing thing I think you need to learn to ****ing read Avery
. Look for a diagram of a rebuildable shock and you will see why it makes a difference.
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beater_k20
Banned
for years huh?Avery4jc said:
son, i've rebuilt more shocks than you've ever looked at, guaranteed. they're upsidedown. saying that the valving is the same either way they're mounted is like saying that a glass will hold just as much water upsidedown as it will right side up.
yes, but they're deigned to be installed one way. there is air inside that shock (obviously more now that yours have leaked out), and mounting them upside down gets in into the valves, which will cause foaming of the oil, which will in turn cause erratic performance of the shock. since you never fully compress your shocks, they never get to this air pocket when installed correctly. this isnt R/C car technology we're talking about (which im assuming is where your "years" of shock experience is from), we're talking real weight, and a correctly speced shock, installed correctly will make a BIG difference in the handling characteristics of your truck.
you said yourself that they were leaking, so now you know what your next project is.
so would u mount a remote reservoir coil over upside down? just put the reservoir on the axle? no so just use common sense man
http://www.4x4review.com/feature/shock-genius.asp
great article so read up. dont they have stickers saying "this end up" on them? and there is a section on mounting shocks upside down in it.
http://www.4x4review.com/feature/shock-genius.asp
great article so read up. dont they have stickers saying "this end up" on them? and there is a section on mounting shocks upside down in it.
beater_k20
Banned
when your truck was built in the 80s (like his truck obviously was), those stickers are LOOOONG gone by now.
ahh i see said the blind man.
beater_k20 said:so now you know what your next project is.
Yep...bling bling...
beater_k20 said:
So you really think that these were the original shocks? Theres no way the stroke would be long enough with this much lift...
Ok guys...just for kicks here's an update from the last hour...
Got the front driveshaft out...
Then I got the front truss/skid off...stupid Rhino one...
Then started yanking stuff out...
I'll be back later with more pics...
Well, I switched my shocks around -- and it did make a big difference in how my front end handles. Before it was a fair bit more bouncy, far more sturdy now.
Back end had Top and Bottom punched into it, so they were right
Back end had Top and Bottom punched into it, so they were right
so all the shocks u by aftermarket are used ones? come on man common sense
beater_k20
Banned
Avery4jc said:
no, but they were probably installed back in the 80s with the lift.
your truck SCREAMS 80s... axle truss/skid... 8" of lift... shock boots... 38" tires on 1/2 tons with stock gears...
beater_k20 said:
nope the kid here in town that I bought it from did the lift a couple years ago...but yeah the truck did scream 80's before I got to it...
Ok guys I'm stuck...
I got the sway bar out...
Then I took the pin out and took the nut off...
But now it won't come apart...it should just slide out but it's not budging...I tried to just lower the axle down but it didn't work so I jacked it back up...how do you get these apart?
that is a job for a forked wedge tool. also known as a balljoint seperator tool.
something like this...
http://www.toolrage.com/ProdImages/ATD-8700.jpg
something like this...
http://www.toolrage.com/ProdImages/ATD-8700.jpg
obijuan said:
screw that...I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something...if it's just a matter of brute force I'll go get a BFH and beat the crap out of that thing until it let's loose...
I don't mean any disrespect but.....why do people make posts ask questions then don't listen????????????????????? Or argue with peoples replies????
put the castle nut back on partially (enough to not ruin the threads) and hit it with the hammer, it will come out
Oh...no no no...I wasn't arguing or disrespecing what he said...I was just saying that if the only way to get it off was to go buy a little wedged fork to slide in there I'll just go beat on it...86454K30 said:
He answered my question.
Oh and thanks James...I'll go try it right now.
koldsimer said:
no comprendo
Cajun4x4
1/2 ton status
Avery4jc said:
doesn't realy suprise me
