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GM resurrecting Hummer as an all-electric ‘super truck’ with 1,000 horsepower

I read an article a few years ago that a retired GM exec. said that IC research would end this year and that once autonomous vehicles proved improved safety we would be legislated out of driving on the road. I’m guessing most of you read the same thing.
The exec said it will happen really fast like in a couple of years.
I have electric forklifts at work and frankly it takes four to replace one diesel. Electric forklifts have been very popular for a lot of years and that’s the best they can do.?.?
 
TuckerK5 said:
I read an article a few years ago that a retired GM exec. said that IC research would end this year and that once autonomous vehicles proved improved safety we would be legislated out of driving on the road. I’m guessing most of you read the same thing.
The exec said it will happen really fast like in a couple of years.
I have electric forklifts at work and frankly it takes four to replace one diesel. Electric forklifts have been very popular for a lot of years and that’s the best they can do.?.?
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Nope. Not if you stand up and voice.
I don't believe that will happen. Well. At least I hope it won't happen.
 
Blue85 said:
The last IC vehicles will be diesels. When battery technology can't provide the 500kWh you need to tow over the mountain in a size that allows passengers or cargo, just throw a 40 gallon diesel tank on instead.
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Doc didn't invent the flux capacitor for nothing....
 
beags86 said:
Nope. Not if you stand up and voice.
I don't believe that will happen. Well. At least I hope it won't happen.
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I hate to break it to you, but in the name of safety it's gonna happen. Lets face it, the average person just sucks at driving, which means 1/2 the people are worse than that. I'd guess that to start it will be certain highways and such will be autonomous only, but it will spread.
 
ashman said:
I hate to break it to you, but in the name of safety it's gonna happen. Lets face it, the average person just sucks at driving, which means 1/2 the people are worse than that. I'd guess that to start it will be certain highways and such will be autonomous only, but it will spread.
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Lol, not if we get involved.
Funny this thread is going in this direction.
I stumbled on this yesterday when I was looking over my policy.

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Point being there are already people thinking about this type of change.
And rejecting it.
I still believe in this country. I believe we can still influence and stand up for what we believe in.
Maybe I'm smoking crack. Idk.

Last I knew the tech still wasn't there yet anyway.

Hell, I'm not opposed to be able to sleep on the way to work. But I think it's long ways away before they "make" us only use autonomous vehicles.
Like said, I could be wrong. I just hope I'm not.
 
beags86 said:
Hell, I'm not opposed to be able to sleep on the way to work. But I think it's long ways away before they "make" us only use autonomous vehicles.
Like said, I could be wrong. I just hope I'm not.
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I feel the same way about it. Honestly, I'd be fine with certain roads being designated as autonomous only, so long as there are still areas where we can choose to drive as well. Hell, all of us are on this forum because we love to drive something. It might be great to only drive when you want to, and never because you "have to".
 
I've got it on good authority (someone who is also developing the chips) that full autonomy won't happen for another couple of decades. The processing and data storage just isn't there yet for something that works with//in a vehicle. But it's coming. Just like socialism. It's coming.
 
At least when Islam gains control, it will bring a regression. Maybe we can get internal combustion back then.
 
I am probably behind on lots of things, but have they figured out how to make and recycle the batteries in electric vehicles without using huge amounts of energy and creating lots of pollutants? Just the standard manufacturing process is deemed bad by environmentalists, do they consider the extra processes to deal with the batteries?

And they often seem to ignore what all it takes to charge the batteries. Coal powerplants or making the equipment for alternative energy has to put something into the atmosphere. What's the big picture actually look like? Is it all about the same either way?


Now, the amount of instantaneous torque that is available now with electric motors, (not engines) is awesome!
 
If they try banning fossil fueled vehicles there will be a revolt,revolution,whatever you want to call it..
Hagerty is mirroring how I feel about this..

I am OK if others who want an electric vehicle can,but don't ruin others lives who cant afford to buy one ,or charge its batteries..
If its going to be forced change,people will not accept it without a fight..
Our power grid is already marginal,I do not see how they expect to be able to supply the demand for electricity ,and all we'll be doing is shifting the source of pollution from the roads,to landfills and power plant emissions with electric cars..

I hope I'm dead before they force us to have "self driving" vehicles and electric cars,so I wont have to die in a crash one caused..
Human error is bad enough--but getting killed by a defective micro chip or a stray radio frequency is worse..
 
longbedder said:
Full autonomy won't happen for some time because it will require that all vehicles on the road are linked and autonomous.

Despite our flaws, the US dies hard on grandfathering. You can't make the poor immigrant mother of 10 get rid of her '98 Dodge Caravan to buy a Tesla.
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But I could see it coming down to ‘your average income is too high and you should be able to afford an electric car’ it seems like the middle class always gets the short end. Even though I only make enough to afford a 13year old truck and a 1700sqft house. :whistle:
 
diesel4me said:
If they try banning fossil fueled vehicles there will be a revolt,revolution,whatever you want to call it..
Hagerty is mirroring how I feel about this..

I am OK if others who want an electric vehicle can,but don't ruin others lives who cant afford to buy one ,or charge its batteries..
If its going to be forced change,people will not accept it without a fight..
Our power grid is already marginal,I do not see how they expect to be able to supply the demand for electricity ,and all we'll be doing is shifting the source of pollution from the roads,to landfills and power plant emissions with electric cars..

I hope I'm dead before they force us to have "self driving" vehicles and electric cars,so I wont have to die in a crash one caused..
Human error is bad enough--but getting killed by a defective micro chip or a stray radio frequency is worse..
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It's already happening in Europe. Several countries are banning the sale of new fossil fueled vehicles in the next 5-10 years. Used vehicles are still permitted but it's only a matter of time.
 
centexk5 said:
It's already happening in Europe. Several countries are banning the sale of new fossil fueled vehicles in the next 5-10 years. Used vehicles are still permitted but it's only a matter of time.
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Link?
 
TuckerK5 said:
once autonomous vehicles proved improved safety we would be legislated out of driving on the road. I’m guessing most of you read the same thing.
The exec said it will happen really fast like in a couple of years.
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No. It may happen, but it will not happen that quickly. Even if all the stars aligned perfectly. The average age of vehicle on the road changes from year to year, but has been staying above 10 years recently. That's the average age. Nearly everyone on this site owns cars older than that. It is not realistic to say the entire U.S. vehicle fleet will implement ANY kind of change in 2 years. 55 years later, there are still cars driving around that are old enough to be exempt from seatbelt laws. It's easy enough to say that all new cars will have this or that feature, but old cars die hard. Especially in countries with a strong car culture.
 
campfire said:
No. It may happen, but it will not happen that quickly. Even if all the stars aligned perfectly. The average age of vehicle on the road changes from year to year, but has been staying above 10 years recently. That's the average age. Nearly everyone on this site owns cars older than that. It is not realistic to say the entire U.S. vehicle fleet will implement ANY kind of change in 2 years. 55 years later, there are still cars driving around that are old enough to be exempt from seatbelt laws. It's easy enough to say that all new cars will have this or that feature, but old cars die hard. Especially in countries with a strong car culture.
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Yep. The EU can do what ever they want, but the Republicans over here will be lined up for every last bit of oil money they can get. I can see a day where maybe all you can buy is a electric car. But they won't be banning the stuff we currently have.
 
Also, has nobody yet made fun of the claimed torque numbers for this new Hummer?

11,500 pound feet...at the wheels. A stock 6.2/SM465/NP208 makes twice that much at the wheels, before adding doublers or aftermarket gears. And we call that engine gutless. :rolleyes:

C'mon, GM. If you won't give us honest torque numbers, just leave them out of the ads entirely. :surepal:
 
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