That will be fine for a trail only rig.
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Hydro assist on the cheap...Under $100
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That will be fine for a trail only rig.
mtnman210
1/2 ton status
I'm trying to gather the parts used in this write up but they're saying the cylinder is no longer available. I looked through the site and can't find a 1.5in ram. Did I miss out on getting the whole setup for under 100 bucks? or am I just missing it on the site? They still have all the hoses and fittings I just can't find the ram. anybody ordered this recently and have a current part number?
Alright, im going with the JK cap for my hydro assist and i will be tapping the top of the box. The JK end cap is 3/8npt, i cant find the correct hoses, or adaptors. Another question is will a 3/8th hose work with this ram? or what adaptor do i need? I cant really tell what will work with this ram or not.
http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2008012423475046&item=9-7258-8&catname=hydraulic
thanks for helping the noob here...
http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2008012423475046&item=9-7258-8&catname=hydraulic
thanks for helping the noob here...
Mudstud
1/2 ton status
It says that the ports are SAE #6 9/16-18 ORB
I thought that #6 meant 3/8? Don't know what ORB stands for.
Check here for your adaptors
www.discounthydraulichose.com
Does the bore or the rod size affect how responsive the ram is?
This one has the 1.5" bore and a 1" rod diameter
For comparison- Rocklogic and PSC rams and the like have a 1.5" bore and .5 or .75" rods.
I thought that #6 meant 3/8? Don't know what ORB stands for.
Check here for your adaptors
www.discounthydraulichose.com
Does the bore or the rod size affect how responsive the ram is?
This one has the 1.5" bore and a 1" rod diameter
For comparison- Rocklogic and PSC rams and the like have a 1.5" bore and .5 or .75" rods.
ya thats was im confused bot i found a 6sae to 1/4" npf adaptor.. soo i think i got the right one.
IIRC SAE 6 is an o-ring seal. You will need a hose with as SAE 6 end or a SAE adapter to your hose. It is not the same pipe thread.
The bore effects how responsive the ram is. A larger bore will react more slowly, but provide more steering force.
The rod diameter effects how stong the rod is (obviously) and how symmetric the steering force is. In other words a larger rod will have less force in the retract direction than a ram with the same bore, but a smaller rod.
For example:
A 2" bore ram will provide 78% more maximum force in the extend direction than a 1.5" bore ram, but it will also be 78% slower.
On a 1.5" bore ram, a 1" rod will be 16 times stronger than a 1/2" rod, but the 1" rod will lose 44% of its maximum steering force in the retract direction (compared to the extend direction) while the 1/2" rod will only lose 11% of its maximum steering force in the retract direction.
The bore effects how responsive the ram is. A larger bore will react more slowly, but provide more steering force.
The rod diameter effects how stong the rod is (obviously) and how symmetric the steering force is. In other words a larger rod will have less force in the retract direction than a ram with the same bore, but a smaller rod.
For example:
A 2" bore ram will provide 78% more maximum force in the extend direction than a 1.5" bore ram, but it will also be 78% slower.
On a 1.5" bore ram, a 1" rod will be 16 times stronger than a 1/2" rod, but the 1" rod will lose 44% of its maximum steering force in the retract direction (compared to the extend direction) while the 1/2" rod will only lose 11% of its maximum steering force in the retract direction.
Mudstud
1/2 ton status
Thanks for the break down. I just ordered the PSC 1.5x8 ram through PORC.
Had a pm asking some questions about this, so I checked out the thread and noticed that the pics weren't here anymore. 
So here's the link to my photobucket album with all the pictures I have.
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v60/KidJethro/Hydro Assist/
~Edit~
Ha! Well, I guess they never were in this thread. lol The link to the post with the pictures was in a previous post in this thread though. This is that link-
http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=160569
So here's the link to my photobucket album with all the pictures I have.
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v60/KidJethro/Hydro Assist/
~Edit~
Ha! Well, I guess they never were in this thread. lol The link to the post with the pictures was in a previous post in this thread though. This is that link-
http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=160569
i just got done doing mine and i did it really cheap.
grizzly 2x8 ram-54 bucks
fittings-16 bucks
lines and hose-20 bucks
cooler and fan 100 bucks used
i also did the radiator hose on the pump and made my own tabs.best pic i could find.i used all 3/8s lines and hose that way i didnt have to buy adapters for 3/8 s to 1/4 inch.i bought almost everything at agri supply
grizzly 2x8 ram-54 bucks
fittings-16 bucks
lines and hose-20 bucks
cooler and fan 100 bucks used
i also did the radiator hose on the pump and made my own tabs.best pic i could find.i used all 3/8s lines and hose that way i didnt have to buy adapters for 3/8 s to 1/4 inch.i bought almost everything at agri supply
dfl701
1/2 ton status
i just got done doing mine and i did it really cheap.
grizzly 2x8 ram-54 bucks
fittings-16 bucks
lines and hose-20 bucks
cooler and fan 100 bucks used
i also did the radiator hose on the pump and made my own tabs.best pic i could find.i used all 3/8s lines and hose that way i didnt have to buy adapters for 3/8 s to 1/4 inch.i bought almost everything at agri supply
I'm sure it looks the same as others LOL but you got any pics if it done?
there are some pics but the guys who took them havnt uploaded them to photobucket yet
Update on the Surplus site for the cylinder:
How are guys attaching the ram on high steer setups?
Martin
Martin
A bracket (fabricated, AFAIK no one makes one you can buy) that welds to the axle tube and mounts the ram to the tie rod.
That and praying for no broken knuckles
TruthThat and praying for no broken knuckles
rwright07
1/2 ton status
i also have seen the ram mounted to a spring plate with a nifty bracket, search pirate for pictures/write ups.
74kay5
1/2 ton status
Still a valid thread, picked up all my hydro stuff at the surplus center. Shipping was astronomical though. $20 to ship a ram lines and fittings. Used the JKW end cap and tapped the top cap myself. Tip for the end cap, just to have on this thread, since its a hydro assist one. To get the old end cap out drill a hole and put a small screw in it, then pry it out using the leverage of the screw. I also used a new O-ring seal when I put in the JKW cap. Because of the nice big cushy new o-ring, the cap would not go in far enough for the c clip to go on. And after an hour and a half of swearing and funny looks from the neighbors I finally got a clamp on the end of the cap and the rear of the steering box to press it in a little and in it went. I guess a lot of people use the old o-ring becuase I've never heard of anyone else having issues. Tapped on the edges of the c-clip around the radius of the box endge to make sure it was fully seated. I've heard of the end caps blowing out so I wanted to make sure.
