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Jimmy B. ( parts from Bruiser)

Using a proven wheeling truck with another driving truck, plus more parts.
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I was completely unsure of that. These heads have D shaped ports, but I don't believe that they are so extreme.
 
LNielson said:
I know all about trying to save money where you can. I really hope you can find a way to spring for the headers. I get that you already fired the money cannon on those heads, but you would be giving up so much of the benefit of those fancy new heads by choking them off with stock manifolds. Not my money on the line here I know, but I think it is well worth a few more $$$ for the benefits you gain with them.

The Hedman 69230's are $185 at Summit. I think they'll fit your heads and they for sure fit in these 4x4 squares about as good as possible.
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I have had conversations with @Bent77 and another good friend about this. I have a very difficult time with the idea of manifolds on these heads. Now that I have measured the port size, more reason to look at headers. I am debating about longer tubes, which leads to more of a dual type system. This would have to be coupled with moving the fuel lines to avoid heat. I say this because of what @ZooMad75 and a friend have experienced in the last year.
The Sanderson ones would let me do a Y pipe up front and use stock fuel lines, possibly at the expense of a couple of ponies....
 
There's a long thread on here about them. There are some good pics of a several y pipe setups done with them. I'll see if I can find it and share the link. Looks like there is room to run the cross pipe right under the bellhousing part of the trans pretty cleanly. I'm going to run mine that way when i redo my suspension later this year. I'm running duals right now.

I know nothing about your heads except they are a huge upgrade over stock, so feel free to ignore my blather about this.
 
LNielson said:
Yes Bent that is a concern, and the worst kind of sweet love.

Here's the thread I was talking about, and the pics of a nicely done y pipe on page 14/15

https://ck5.com/forums/threads/hedman-elite-header-review.213472/page-15
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Definitely looks like an option. I went out and looked at the boy's '72 this week.
But yes, the 3" of suspension lift will probably be a problem. I may need to wait on all of the exhaust system until I find some way to mimic full suspension compression. I don't want to take my new springs apart.
 
6872xtc said:
Definitely looks like an option. I went out and looked at the boy's '72 this week.
But yes, the 3" of suspension lift will probably be a problem. I may need to wait on all of the exhaust system until I find some way to mimic full suspension compression. I don't want to take my new springs apart.
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Definitely don't do anything to mess up those ORD's
 
6872xtc said:
I have had conversations with @Bent77 and another good friend about this. I have a very difficult time with the idea of manifolds on these heads. Now that I have measured the port size, more reason to look at headers. I am debating about longer tubes, which leads to more of a dual type system. This would have to be coupled with moving the fuel lines to avoid heat. I say this because of what @ZooMad75 and a friend have experienced in the last year.
The Sanderson ones would let me do a Y pipe up front and use stock fuel lines, possibly at the expense of a couple of ponies....
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Hindsight being what it is, I would have run a y-pipe in the beginning. I've taken a long hard look at things and reviewed the timeline of my fuel problem. First off, the heat is NOT helping from the exhaust. However, my problems started immediately after installing a new pump for a lack of fuel pressure/volume after the truck had been shut off for even a short while. Bent even witnessed that problem when I picked up the CB I bought from him. I had driven my 91 for almost a year without a hiccup when running during the summer or a couple of times I wheeled it. But once we put the pump in to fix the other issue, this new problem developed. It could very well be that the hot exhaust killed the new pump or it was weak right out of the box. Again, my exhaust routing isn't helping. So I've got a date next month to get the exhaust addressed. I don't have the extra coin to completely re-work the system and go from full duals to a y-pipe or just running both down the driver's side. We will be re-working the right pipe for more clearance to the pass side rail/fuel lines. The spectra pump is getting pulled and replaced with a Delco like I had in it to start with. It's requiring cycling the key 2-3 times if it's sat for any length of time so the check valve in the pump is bleeding off like the first one anyway. The combination should fix my problem or I'm going to be in deep shit in the desert.
 
I’d consider those round port, and a nice 1.625” round primary would probably be just fine
 
I think that you may have a good option there. I do know that the ORD engine mounts gave me a good bit more space. I believe that I could fit the shorties that you linked for me, but my thoughts were always to get longer tubes. But as Pat said to me, "it's not a race car".
And thanks for all of this input and help!
 
I think everyone likes to always compare to the "perfect world scenario" in which you would get equal length tuned pipes coated in ceramic and a bung already installed with absolutely zero chassis or driveline interference

In reality, the shorty headers will flow better than what you had and not hose you down pipe. Sometimes "better than what's on there now" is more than enough
 
Bent77 said:
I think everyone likes to always compare to the "perfect world scenario" in which you would get equal length tuned pipes coated in ceramic and a bung already installed with absolutely zero chassis or driveline interference

In reality, the shorty headers will flow better than what you had and not hose you down pipe. Sometimes "better than what's on there now" is more than enough
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I don't think I've ever seen a set of headers that actually had equal length tubes in person.

I know that they exist and I understand the concept, but there are a ton of headers without equal length tubes out there that work really well.
 
1977k5 said:
I don't think I've ever seen a set of headers that actually had equal length tubes in person.

I know that they exist and I understand the concept, but there are a ton of headers without equal length tubes out there that work really well.
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Yeah you were probably still in school the last time I had a set of those. Like I was telling Dave, if it’s better than stock, it’s an improvement

Now let’s talk 4-7 firing order reversal
 
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