I've already got the shackle brackets on the side that puts them closest to the spring, so flipping them the other way would make them way too far back.
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When you set the truck down, does the shackle angle change at all?
If not, the spring rate may be too high..?
Or maybe another way to look at it is... does it take the extra 630lbs to make the shackle move - spring compress?
If not, the spring rate may be too high..?
Or maybe another way to look at it is... does it take the extra 630lbs to make the shackle move - spring compress?
yes. The spring rate is certainly too high for the weight I have now. The question is, once I get the cage and sliders in, is it correct then.
You could plate the rear section of the frame with 1/2" steel. Because I do not want to run out with a welder to fix a rear shackle bracket frame area.
I am just here to stir the pot.
I am just here to stir the pot.
That would help with weight...
I talked to @Stephen for a bit on Friday and it sounds more and more like they just over estimated how much the blazer weighs.
I have access to corner scales through @the_blaze and I offered to get my weight when I first ordered the springs. I shouldnt have let the guy I first talked to talk me out of sending in my weight, but he was confident that they had done this plenty of times. Live and learn I guess.
Anyway, in talking to @Stephen it sounds like they estimated north of 6k. Right now my blazer sits at about 4700 lbs. Add 300 or so for a cage, a few more for sliders and a winch and they are still probably off by 800+ lbs.
All that said, ord has been great on the phone during all of this and it sounds like they are going to take care of the problem once we know for sure what the right weight and height is.
So, in order to help find those answers, I got the front springs put in last night.
As an aside, I have to rave about the greasable bolts I have from ORD. I put those in a couple of years ago, and the entire front suspension came apart super easy because of it.
Anyway, with the old springs I measured 15" from axle tube to bottom of the frame. @Stephen said that is exactly right for a 6" lift.
New springs sit at 16.25" a little higher, but considering the cage and winch aren't in, I'd bet that is correct.
That 1.25" in the front helps with the rake, but it's still way high in the back.
I'm getting the wheel scales tomorrow and I'll weigh each corner. I'll throw the winch on the radiator support and load 400lbs in it to simulate cage and slider weight. Hopefully we can get new rear springs on the way asap.
Oh, and I'm going to need a new front drive shaft. Even though the ride height will come down, these springs will obviously flex far enough where my driveshaft will come apart.
I have access to corner scales through @the_blaze and I offered to get my weight when I first ordered the springs. I shouldnt have let the guy I first talked to talk me out of sending in my weight, but he was confident that they had done this plenty of times. Live and learn I guess.
Anyway, in talking to @Stephen it sounds like they estimated north of 6k. Right now my blazer sits at about 4700 lbs. Add 300 or so for a cage, a few more for sliders and a winch and they are still probably off by 800+ lbs.
All that said, ord has been great on the phone during all of this and it sounds like they are going to take care of the problem once we know for sure what the right weight and height is.
So, in order to help find those answers, I got the front springs put in last night.
As an aside, I have to rave about the greasable bolts I have from ORD. I put those in a couple of years ago, and the entire front suspension came apart super easy because of it.
Anyway, with the old springs I measured 15" from axle tube to bottom of the frame. @Stephen said that is exactly right for a 6" lift.
New springs sit at 16.25" a little higher, but considering the cage and winch aren't in, I'd bet that is correct.
That 1.25" in the front helps with the rake, but it's still way high in the back.
I'm getting the wheel scales tomorrow and I'll weigh each corner. I'll throw the winch on the radiator support and load 400lbs in it to simulate cage and slider weight. Hopefully we can get new rear springs on the way asap.
Oh, and I'm going to need a new front drive shaft. Even though the ride height will come down, these springs will obviously flex far enough where my driveshaft will come apart.
Needs bigger tires and then just leave it as is.
Got the scales last night and weighed the blazer.
First up is as it sits right now. 4781 lbs
Then we threw the winch on the radiator support, and a couple of sandbags out back to simulate a full tank of fuel. 4979 lbs
In this case, Eric is the simulated cage 8) Everyone else pretty much max's out fully loaded. 6121 lbs
The front sits about 1" high with the winch and sandbags, so if it's supposed to settle 1/2", the front springs are still looking about right.
I forgot to take a pic of the back measurement, but with everyone in, it still was 2-3" high. Now that I have all of the corner weights, we should be able to get the correct springs coming. I'll call ORD tomorrow and report back.
First up is as it sits right now. 4781 lbs
Then we threw the winch on the radiator support, and a couple of sandbags out back to simulate a full tank of fuel. 4979 lbs
In this case, Eric is the simulated cage 8) Everyone else pretty much max's out fully loaded. 6121 lbs
The front sits about 1" high with the winch and sandbags, so if it's supposed to settle 1/2", the front springs are still looking about right.
I forgot to take a pic of the back measurement, but with everyone in, it still was 2-3" high. Now that I have all of the corner weights, we should be able to get the correct springs coming. I'll call ORD tomorrow and report back.
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Not nearly as heavy as anyone guessed.
I was shocked when I weighed my truck with me sitting in it. Just shy of under 5000lbs
Are you sure you have the weights right? According to your note on this image you SUBTRACTED Joey? 
It is pretty amazing that you added 1200lbs that easily.
Are you sure you have the weights right? According to your note on this image you SUBTRACTED Joey?
That is funny. I thought the same thing at first. Must have been in the ejector seat.
Some of us are pretty big guys...
Bye @the_blaze !
Quarantine 15 got me
Some good news, ORD says my replacement rear springs will be here Tuesday! As suspected, it looks like my front springs are going to work.
Also had the rest of my front suspension stuff show up.
14" travel shocks, bump stops and cans.
Time to get back to work.
Also had the rest of my front suspension stuff show up.
14" travel shocks, bump stops and cans.
Time to get back to work.
Air bumps should be the first upgrade on every truck.
these aren't exactly air bumps. They use the same mounts, but use poly inserts instead of air pressure. They were a lot cheaper, but will provide an easy way to upgrade if I decide I need them.
