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'72 K5 - BYT - 1 ton swap

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I tell you, snow runs lead to more adventure (and misadventure) than any other wheeling in my experience. Sliding of the trail like that is one of the big reasons I want to put a rear winch on the crew cab.

I've also noticed around here with our sheriff departments, they don't want to let anyone else help them. The 4x4 club I'm in has been around for over 50 years and some of the active members have been around almost as long. They used to help out all the time with recoveries like the Uinta Garage did, now they get offended if we talk to them about being available to help. At least the forest service will refer recoveries to us. We're also able help give rides in blizzards by working directly with the hospitals.

Snow runs do help you learn a lot about recovery work.
 
mrk5 said:
I tell you, snow runs lead to more adventure (and misadventure) than any other wheeling in my experience. Sliding of the trail like that is one of the big reasons I want to put a rear winch on the crew cab.

I've also noticed around here with our sheriff departments, they don't want to let anyone else help them. The 4x4 club I'm in has been around for over 50 years and some of the active members have been around almost as long. They used to help out all the time with recoveries like the Uinta Garage did, now they get offended if we talk to them about being available to help. At least the forest service will refer recoveries to us. We're also able help give rides in blizzards by working directly with the hospitals.

Snow runs do help you learn a lot about recovery work.
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Look up Colorado 4x4 rescue and recovery. They've been doing a lot of the off road recovery up west of Denver and Colorado Springs. They are tied in with local search and rescue organizations so they usually get the call from law enforcement.


When I was driving back home from Denver Sunday I had my Ham dialed into the Colorado connection repeater in the springs. I could listen in on them in the middle of a couple of recovery jobs up on rampart range road where it was getting pounded with snow. They have a youtube channel and take pretty good video of the recoveries too.
 
ZooMad75 said:
Look up Colorado 4x4 rescue and recovery. They've been doing a lot of the off road recovery up west of Denver and Colorado Springs. They are tied in with local search and rescue organizations so they usually get the call from law enforcement.


When I was driving back home from Denver Sunday I had my Ham dialed into the Colorado connection repeater in the springs. I could listen in on them in the middle of a couple of recovery jobs up on rampart range road where it was getting pounded with snow. They have a youtube channel and take pretty good video of the recoveries too.
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The 4x4 rescue and recovery is a whole different sore spot for the club. We were miffed when they started getting the rescue calls for the trails the club has adopted. A lot of us enjoy getting to help people and do the recoveries. We worked it out with the forest service for them to contact us, but the sheriff is a different deal. I'm not sure if they even contact the 4x4 rescue and recovery people either.

Truckman4life said:
Who called search and rescue? You gonna get a nice hefty bill for that? Time for a set of chains!
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In Colorado, you don't get charged for rescue if you have a Parks & Wildlife permit of some kind, like a fishing license for example. I have my crew cab registered with an OHV tag in addition to the license plates. There are a few trails that require it and it also covers me for a search and rescue situation. It's a 25 cent charge on every Parks & Wildlife license. Hopefully UT has something similar.
 
mrk5 said:
In Colorado, you don't get charged for rescue if you have a Parks & Wildlife permit of some kind, like a fishing license for example. I have my crew cab registered with an OHV tag in addition to the license plates. There are a few trails that require it and it also covers me for a search and rescue situation. It's a 25 cent charge on every Parks & Wildlife license. Hopefully UT has something similar.
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That's cool!
 
mrk5 said:
I tell you, snow runs lead to more adventure (and misadventure) than any other wheeling in my experience. Sliding of the trail like that is one of the big reasons I want to put a rear winch on the crew cab.

I've also noticed around here with our sheriff departments, they don't want to let anyone else help them. The 4x4 club I'm in has been around for over 50 years and some of the active members have been around almost as long. They used to help out all the time with recoveries like the Uinta Garage did, now they get offended if we talk to them about being available to help. At least the forest service will refer recoveries to us. We're also able help give rides in blizzards by working directly with the hospitals.

Snow runs do help you learn a lot about recovery work.
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The s&r guys that showed up did have official looking coats, bit were obviously volunteers that thought side by sides were far superior to trucks...amateurs imo
Truckman4life said:
Who called search and rescue? You gonna get a nice hefty bill for that? Time for a set of chains!
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The girlfriend insisted I call them. Luckily no charge.
 
The guy with tracks on his SXS was on a high horse and looked down on our foolsized trucks with doubt.
They left pretty quick after bringing the family down, leaving us to decide what to do.
 
Yeah the search and rescue guys around here are mostly all volunteers also. I used to work with a few of them. I could definitely see those guys that came for you thinking they are Mr Badass and all that.
 
Just putting it out there, I'm officially on the hunt for a dana 60 front axle. The closer to SLC the better, but I will be at BB21, so maybe able to meet then.
 
ashman said:
Just putting it out there, I'm officially on the hunt for a dana 60 front axle. The closer to SLC the better, but I will be at BB21, so maybe able to meet then.
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Maybe I am crazy, but I have been entertained by you using the 14SF rear axle and staying 6 lug. You and the bent one could keep 6 lug and prove some things to others! :saweet:
 
Thoughts about fortification to the 44 at all? Given the price of 60's these days you could throw chrome-moly axle shafts and Reid knuckles. Rcv axle shafts would be better yet but would be have a high cost of entry.

Or are 40's in the plans that would negate even a bulletproofed 44?
 
6872xtc said:
Maybe I am crazy, but I have been entertained by you using the 14SF rear axle and staying 6 lug. You and the bent one could keep 6 lug and prove some things to others! :saweet:
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tbh, I do enjoy that aspect of things. Proving that the answer to every issue isn't just go to a 60. That said, I'm also timid in places because I'm worried about breaking.

ZooMad75 said:
Thoughts about fortification to the 44 at all? Given the price of 60's these days you could throw chrome-moly axle shafts and Reid knuckles. Rcv axle shafts would be better yet but would be have a high cost of entry.

Or are 40's in the plans that would negate even a bulletproofed 44?
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Honestly, chromo axles are absolutely in the plan. I'm playing it by ear, but I'm guessing I'm at least a year from being able to get a 60 bought, built and installed. Chrome-moly axles could be done way sooner, so I may just do that and then push a little harder with the d44 and see how it holds up. If I end up liking it, it's not like I couldn't sell a build D60 easily enough.
 
Get a set of super duty axles they are still reasonably priced and just retube the front to make it pass side diff if you gotta get new wheels anyways. You could drill them to 8x6.5 if you want also. I would go cheap and just cut the long side tube down then extend and sleeve the driver side tube instead of messing with the tube where it goes into the center section.
 
Yeah that’s how I did that

@ashman doing the pumpkin swap is an undertaking, not without substantial rewards though. Going high pinion on the passenger side avoids the oil filter and takes about 10* out of the driveshaft angle
 
The superduty 60’s make our old gm 60 look like a 44 lol
 
In your situation Josh, I wouldn't be adverse to a ball joint 60. I would also try to find a high pinion because that's the next evolution anyway; I know I often think it would be nice to have high pinion.
 
Truckman4life said:
Get a set of super duty axles they are still reasonably priced and just retube the front to make it pass side diff if you gotta get new wheels anyways. You could drill them to 8x6.5 if you want also. I would go cheap and just cut the long side tube down then extend and sleeve the driver side tube instead of messing with the tube where it goes into the center section.
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Thanks for the advice. I'll have to look into that. As you guys can probably tell, I really don't know anything about this, so I'm learning as I go.

mrk5 said:
In your situation Josh, I wouldn't be adverse to a ball joint 60. I would also try to find a high pinion because that's the next evolution anyway; I know I often think it would be nice to have high pinion.
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Are the 2005+ superduty axles ball joint?
 
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