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77K5. The IronMaiden...9/2 headed for Blazer Bash 20!
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jack of all trades build, overland, dunes, rocks, trails
42 stuffed in my rear tub with No issue.
ERIC, you should know better...I got rear tubs already. Talking fronts here?
Havn'et had any in there yet, and I want to try to get some in there before throwing sand all over the place.
Thats what had me all confudlelded Dave I said to myself well he isn't running front wheel wells.
Time to break out the ol engine hoist again buddy!!!!
Flex it out build to fit. You have a good amount of stuff so I think modding a stock inner wheel well to fit will be more of a pain then building one.
Its not that it needs to be so much bigger, its that it needs to be so much bigger in one or two areas.
Yah its mostly front and back where you need the extra space but with all that tubing in the way i think you will be better off building your own
I've been trying to think of a really smart way to do front fenderwells too...
So far the best idea I can think of is a big pile of very small diameter rod (like 1/8" or less) that can be bent into curves and tack welded between the outer fenderlip and whatever inner structure you've got to work with (cage nodes, framerail, firewall, etc).... with maybe 10 or 20 of those fitted you can flex the truck and see if the tire hits any of those rods. Cut and move as needed until everything appears to work without issue (tires straight ahead, tires turned left, tires turned right, etc).
From there you could weld other curved rods in the opposite direction, forming a large "grid" structure that will hold everything in position... and either stretch some fabric tight over the entire thing (which is then covered in fiberglass resin and layers of 'glass) or slowly fill in each square with a sheetmetal patch and weld it up solid.
Either way it sounds like a lot of work, but there would be something VERY satisfying about having front inner fender liners even with a larger set of tires! I can't recall ever seeing it done and I think it would be impressive!
-G
So far the best idea I can think of is a big pile of very small diameter rod (like 1/8" or less) that can be bent into curves and tack welded between the outer fenderlip and whatever inner structure you've got to work with (cage nodes, framerail, firewall, etc).... with maybe 10 or 20 of those fitted you can flex the truck and see if the tire hits any of those rods. Cut and move as needed until everything appears to work without issue (tires straight ahead, tires turned left, tires turned right, etc).
From there you could weld other curved rods in the opposite direction, forming a large "grid" structure that will hold everything in position... and either stretch some fabric tight over the entire thing (which is then covered in fiberglass resin and layers of 'glass) or slowly fill in each square with a sheetmetal patch and weld it up solid.
Either way it sounds like a lot of work, but there would be something VERY satisfying about having front inner fender liners even with a larger set of tires! I can't recall ever seeing it done and I think it would be impressive!
-G
Best way I have found is, take them out lots of clearance then.
I've been trying to think of a really smart way to do front fenderwells too...
So far the best idea I can think of is a big pile of very small diameter rod (like 1/8" or less) that can be bent into curves and tack welded between the outer fenderlip and whatever inner structure you've got to work with (cage nodes, framerail, firewall, etc).... with maybe 10 or 20 of those fitted you can flex the truck and see if the tire hits any of those rods. Cut and move as needed until everything appears to work without issue (tires straight ahead, tires turned left, tires turned right, etc).
From there you could weld other curved rods in the opposite direction, forming a large "grid" structure that will hold everything in position... and either stretch some fabric tight over the entire thing (which is then covered in fiberglass resin and layers of 'glass) or slowly fill in each square with a sheetmetal patch and weld it up solid.
Either way it sounds like a lot of work, but there would be something VERY satisfying about having front inner fender liners even with a larger set of tires! I can't recall ever seeing it done and I think it would be impressive!
-G
Thats the way i have done them in the past, never fiberglassed em though and the shapes were usually simple enough you werent just filling in blank spaces but covering several at a time. I think the glass would look nicer
Never done one on my full size though always on smaller rigs
I've been trying to think of a really smart way to do front fenderwells too...
So far the best idea I can think of is a big pile of very small diameter rod (like 1/8" or less) that can be bent into curves and tack welded between the outer fenderlip and whatever inner structure you've got to work with (cage nodes, framerail, firewall, etc).... with maybe 10 or 20 of those fitted you can flex the truck and see if the tire hits any of those rods. Cut and move as needed until everything appears to work without issue (tires straight ahead, tires turned left, tires turned right, etc).
From there you could weld other curved rods in the opposite direction, forming a large "grid" structure that will hold everything in position... and either stretch some fabric tight over the entire thing (which is then covered in fiberglass resin and layers of 'glass) or slowly fill in each square with a sheetmetal patch and weld it up solid.
Either way it sounds like a lot of work, but there would be something VERY satisfying about having front inner fender liners even with a larger set of tires! I can't recall ever seeing it done and I think it would be impressive!
-G
Thats an awesome Idea Greg...I have thought about making an M-37 hybrid fender at some point, like this from earlier in my thread:
Now I also realize, I need rocker sliders to keep the door funcitional after bashing rocks, and it will tie into the cage nicely too. And a few other things noted while checking out the varitable plethora of rigs at BB10. The front and rear will eventually be boat tailed to some degree, but I still want to run an M-37 type fender on them. This will also be carried over to the Trail trailer when that comes about.
Imagine if you will (The Twilight zone?)
The front of the truck with rounded and narrowed fenders and a 1.50 DOM tube framed fender with 12 ga. metal filler panel.
Like these:
with these blended to them:
The front fender would basically come in as far as my engine cage would allow, then a narrower profile of the M-37 fender added w/ some 1.50 DOM for the outer tube and maybe some 12ga for the fender itself. ____________
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True, that's why I left them out for BB11...but running in sand, I think it would be advantageous to have them in there.
Worked on a few more things today...Got the front suspension retorqued, can't believe how much things will loosen up, or settle in...I got probably 3/4 turn on the Ubolts before reaching 100#, and the Shackle bolts took another 1/2 turn or so.
The Fuel filler tube I had to reposition up a little higher, where it was located, when it was hot outside (in Moab instead of my A/C shop) the hose ended up kinking, so I moved it up higher to allow a better bend to the hose, of course that required moving the fire extenquisher mount some too.
Working on the gas tank skid plate now...
Prep and paint beadlocks...Done
trim inserts and mount tires...on hold
Remove front fenders...Done
Remove radiator support...Done
Hydro assist...Done
Repair transfer case leak
Remove radiator and mod for clearance of fan motor...Done
Gas tank filler tube...Done
Gas tank fuel shutoff valve...Done
Front axle limit straps
Torque front suspension...Done
Install radiator support/radiator/coolers...Done
Pass head v/c bolt repair/PCV line repair...Done
Add 1-2 leaves to rear springs...Done
Torque rear suspension
Drivetrain venting
Check/secure flexible brake lines...Done
Fuel tank Skid plate fitment...Done
Front fender mods, inner fenderwells
Fan relays...Done
Hood pins
Hood hinges...Done
Paint front fenders/hood/tailgate/bumpers
Paint Tube doors
Tube grille/light mounting/bezels/moldings
The Fuel filler tube I had to reposition up a little higher, where it was located, when it was hot outside (in Moab instead of my A/C shop) the hose ended up kinking, so I moved it up higher to allow a better bend to the hose, of course that required moving the fire extenquisher mount some too.
Working on the gas tank skid plate now...
Prep and paint beadlocks...Done
trim inserts and mount tires...on hold
Remove front fenders...Done
Remove radiator support...Done
Hydro assist...Done
Repair transfer case leak
Remove radiator and mod for clearance of fan motor...Done
Gas tank filler tube...Done
Gas tank fuel shutoff valve...Done
Front axle limit straps
Torque front suspension...Done
Install radiator support/radiator/coolers...Done
Pass head v/c bolt repair/PCV line repair...Done
Add 1-2 leaves to rear springs...Done
Torque rear suspension
Drivetrain venting
Check/secure flexible brake lines...Done
Fuel tank Skid plate fitment...Done
Front fender mods, inner fenderwells
Fan relays...Done
Hood pins
Hood hinges...Done
Paint front fenders/hood/tailgate/bumpers
Paint Tube doors
Tube grille/light mounting/bezels/moldings
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Zim,
The M-37 fender shape as your liner might work well. It really depends on how much "stuff" your tires give you. With enough articulation, even a high-mounted flat liner will probably rub in the center.
The wireframe idea will probably net you a similar shape to the M-37 with with a bit more of a crown to it.
-G
The M-37 fender shape as your liner might work well. It really depends on how much "stuff" your tires give you. With enough articulation, even a high-mounted flat liner will probably rub in the center.
The wireframe idea will probably net you a similar shape to the M-37 with with a bit more of a crown to it.
-G
I follow that Greg, Kert stuffed his pretty good as I remember! I'll have to come up with something as a "coathanger model" and try to stuff my tires, and see where to go from there. Right now I think I will throw the old wheelwells in there to run the dunes with...I'll take a sledgehammer and a sawzall along too!
similar to these:?
I like it. looks bad a**. 
