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'81 K5, "BlaZeus"- How to NOT build the ultimate budget K5; 3 & 4 link build

So bit of advice.

Spread the load. By putting those tubes where they are you created a possible shear point.

Those tubes are not acting on each other. They are putting all their force into the horizontal tube.


What Eric is saying is that bar that has the shock mount on it needs to be connected to the bar you just put in(Tube node). Also it appears that bar at the bottom is welded(seam) could be a bad pic but that tube should be solid . By putting those tubes offset you are creating a shear point( forces acting in opposite directions ). That should be connected in one node and continue all the way to the C pillar.

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Why did you chop the floor up like that? Where is that tube going underneath?
 
What Eric is saying is that bar that has the shock mount on it needs to be connected to the bar you just put in(Tube node). Also it appears that bar at the bottom is welded(seam) could be a bad pic but that tube should be solid . By putting those tubes offset you are creating a shear point( forces acting in opposite directions ). That should be connected in one node and continue all the way to the C pillar.

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Yeah I tried to do that but that shock hoop and the frame are off set from each other. Would it have been better if I mounted that tube not parallel to the frame and off set to make that node match?
I thought this might be an issue so I was thinking about adding a tube next to the shock hoop that would create a node from the frame tie in tube to the C pillar crossbar behind where the rear seats would go. Then welding those 2 tubes together with plate on top that would double function as an armrest for rear passengers...oh! I could even integrate dimples into it and then make one of the holes a cup holder
 
I see your brain works like mine.

New ideas while typing.


If you cant move it, just cut some small tubes, notch them at 45*, and triangle gusset that piece jesse pointed out.
 
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I see your brain works like mine.

New ideas while typing.


If you cant move it, just cut some small tubes, notch them at 45*, and triangle gusset that piece jessed pointed out.
Haha yes!
Alright, you lost me here....
 
I see now, just seems like you could have put a small bend in that piece, and only had to cut a hole on the top step of the floor, instead of chopping it all out.
Definitely could have...just seemed like this would be stronger...and it's not like the floor doesn't have any holes in it already....
 
Why did you chop the floor up like that? Where is that tube going underneath?

here Adam..


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I would definitely finish smoothing out that lower weld, and put a good, fresh hot bead around it.. maybe 3.... the back 1/2 of your rig is relying mucho on it... consider an upper frame gusset...
 
here Adam..


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I would definitely finish smoothing out that lower weld, and put a good, fresh hot bead around it.. maybe 3.... the back 1/2 of your rig is relying mucho on it... consider an upper frame gusset...
What's the benefit of grinding your welds? I know that if I were to one day race this thing, the cage cannot have any welds that have been ground down...and therefore I haven't been.
 
Ahh there we go. Yeah that's doable for sure. That gonna be strong enough?

I mean, I technically feel that you should just move a tube, or put a bend in it to get the tubes to line up.

But if you cant, or don't want to do that, at least add a gusset.

You need to look at things and think "if I roll, or jump big, where is the force going to go? How will it transmit from the tires, through the axle, through the links, through the frame, through the cage? Where are the weak points?.."
 
here Adam..


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I would definitely finish smoothing out that lower weld, and put a good, fresh hot bead around it.. maybe 3.... the back 1/2 of your rig is relying mucho on it... consider an upper frame gusset...


Or atleast box the frame from the rear link mounts to the front link mounts.
 
Or atleast box the frame from the rear link mounts to the front link mounts.


I think this needs to be way beefed up. You should see how nate did his frame connection on the backhalf. Multiple tubes, all gusseted in.
 
What's the benefit of grinding your welds? I know that if I were to one day race this thing, the cage cannot have any welds that have been ground down...and therefore I haven't been.

it looks like you already smoothed it with the grinder in that pic at the bottom of the tube...... a 12 lb spool and some scrap practice for a couple nights might be beneficial...



Or atleast box the frame from the rear link mounts to the front link mounts.



yeah, that too! :haha:
 

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