That is a good point... If it was me I would change the pickup and see if it works better.
Might save alot of money.
Might save alot of money.
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There is a definite carb performance problem on extreme angles
Being on the rocks in Moab is way different than the dunes
I knoe Keith runs a quad with decent success on his 454 but it isnt as steady as FI
I want to eliminate the possibility of stalling whether it be on an up or down extreme angle and FI would take care of that as long as fuel pickup isnt a factor
Being on the rocks in Moab is way different than the dunes
I knoe Keith runs a quad with decent success on his 454 but it isnt as steady as FI
I want to eliminate the possibility of stalling whether it be on an up or down extreme angle and FI would take care of that as long as fuel pickup isnt a factor
Hey Dave just subscribing haha. Finally went and bought me a bowtie so figured it was only right I join the forum
isnt that sweet dude! Lololololololol
isnt that sweet dude! Lololololololol
Just run the walbros and be done. I had 2 in my sonoma tank (rectangle shaped in opposite corners) running a decent 454 through an e2000 pump sourced from early 90s fords on a custom tuned stock style TBI setup. The Ibex will be using a few walbros to feed the 6.0 again this time around.
I never put mine on any angles or used the skinny peddle though...
I never put mine on any angles or used the skinny peddle though...
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Heath I know these Walbros have been used by many off roaders, and are recommended for such applications, that is why I got them in the first place....running off camber with a 1/4 tank or less is what has me concerned about a factory central pickup point. If I'm sitting in that position for 10-15 minutes (which I have being the noob that I am) I can see the central pickup running out of fuel availability, where the Walbros would pickup in the corners of the tank.
Just run the walbros and be done. I had 2 in my sonoma tank (rectangle shaped in opposite corners) running a decent 454 through an e2000 pump sourced from early 90s fords on a custom tuned stock style TBI setup. The Ibex will be using a few walbros to feed the 6.0 again this time around.
I never put mine on any angles or used the skinny peddle though...
Yeah, your pretty conservative in your wheelin' Matt!
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Well it's good to know the walbro pickups are working for people too. Its a good idea, I feel like it just complicates an otherwise simple system. But if it works it works.
Seems like overcomplicating something where there isn't an issue.
Martin
Martin
When your at 30% fuel and center fuel pickup and in a line leaned 70° on your side its nice to keep the engine running. Probably something most the web wheelers here will never experience though.
I already admitted that I had stalled my engine on an incline with the factory setup, but I also said I was stupid low on fuel.
Martin
Martin
and not to slam the dune guys, as I'm one of em, but that is a quick blast up a hill, so running out of fuel shouldn't be an issue for a stock pickup, its the position that Matt describes that will have you crapping your pants when your engine dies....and your steering, and in time your brakeing power, etc....I would like to avoid that happening again. Backing down an obstacle that was a challenge to get up to a particular point, just so you can start the engine again may be a game over event.
I would say even most real wheelers won't see that, not just web wheelers. The vast majority of wheelers don't see 70 degree angles, especially for any length of time, thats pretty extreme. If I am at 70 degrees it wasn't on purpose, that means I made a mistake.
Also, I was a little confused at first when you were saying dual walbros, because I was thinking dual pumps (like we had to do to my brothers C10 since one wasn't enouhg for his procharged big block). So I was thinking, if one pump is sucking air thats not good! Then I realized you were talking about the pickups.
Yeah I have idled for a while at angles while hooking up recovery straps to others, etc, but not for 20 minutes or anything. If you are sure your pickups are good to go, reliable, and plenty big enough (which is sounds like they are from Norby's experience), then just get an inline EFI pump for your current setup and be done. You will need a return, and try to make the return go in at the bottom or you will aerate your fuel, that could be also a tube that protrudes to the bottom like the factory, return needs to be at least 5/16" Dave.
This pump could work inline...
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/vpn-gsl392/overview/
at 70 degrees is when the fun starts 
My pump was mounted lower than the tank. The e2000 isn't a self priming pump but I never had any issues at all with it. I run a pump pulled from the boneyard.
Sure would have sucks if my pickup went dry on this obstacle. Granted this was still carb'd and had a hesitation coming back on but had the walbros in there and didn't suck air when I needed gas.
My pump was mounted lower than the tank. The e2000 isn't a self priming pump but I never had any issues at all with it. I run a pump pulled from the boneyard.
Sure would have sucks if my pickup went dry on this obstacle. Granted this was still carb'd and had a hesitation coming back on but had the walbros in there and didn't suck air when I needed gas.
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at 70 degrees is when the fun starts
That looks like a wild ride, I've seen that before in your thread and it's good footage. The only time I have ever been close to flipping I was going 40 - 50 mph through the whoops and it wasn't fun at all, I just kept hoping my bumper didn't catch and to this day I don't know how it didn't as vertical as I was all out of rythm. I had to floor it 3 times in a row when the back of the truck was on the way up but it would keep going up, luckily I didn't lose fuel prime either. I think when you are sitting there for a longer period of time with a low fuel level is when it's really an issue.
And Dave the instructions should say where the pump needs to be. It's not as optimal to have the pump outside the tank, but if you prefer the walbro pickups it can work. Some say to mount it lower than the tank, some say to mount it within a foot of the bottom of the tank, it just depends on the pump design and manufacturer. You may need the fittings too if it doesn't come with them, look in the "suggested parts.."
Ordered....EZ-EFI 30226 kit, 600hp pump upgrade kit 307503, and
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a birthday/thanksgiving/christmas/new years/MLK/groundhog day/presidents day/st patty's day/ easter/ memorial day present for myself....that should cover it!
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Now thats a really sweet intake and EFI setup! Looks very familiar for some reason.
The only thing you won't like is installing that braided pushlock hose. But the EFI fuel relay makes the wiring even easier. Plugs right into the EZ harness.
The only thing you won't like is installing that braided pushlock hose. But the EFI fuel relay makes the wiring even easier. Plugs right into the EZ harness.
Awesome. Way jealous
Yeah, I've read about your guys ordeals with that stuff....if I ain't likin it, I'll get some braided pushloc and jegs fittings like I used on the rest of my fluid lines....seems to be working fine for everything I've used it on.
