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Blazer Bash 2023 General Discussion thread **see latest post for updates **Registration closing tonight 9/6/23***
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Almost. I’ll post up when when it’s ready.
OK Boys, registration is open! Please be advised that Paypal changed some stuff up on us. @mrk5 set up the link and unfortunately, they won't let us add each trail day to the cart and pay one time. So you'll get sent to Paypal for each trail choice you select. For passengers, you should be able to select a quantity.
Bear with us as it's all fresh, so if there are any issues, please let me know.
Bear with us as it's all fresh, so if there are any issues, please let me know.
Wait we need to pay for ea trail one at a time ?
now on saturday pay pal won't go past I am Not a Robot
Yes, that's what I posted before. Unfortunately, Paypal changed something and it will not allow it to add multiple items at once. The cost is the same going one at a time vs lumping them together. What it does on the back side is gives me the counts by day and trail. Had we not gone that way it wouldn't give the listing of the trail. I'd only see that x amount chose trails on Friday, x on Saturday, x on Sunday. So it would force me to email everyone involved to figure out which trail they wanted to go on. That would be insanely time-consuming to sort out and I had to make the call to get the details easiest.
well that was painful, I have 3 days of trails, but only 1 passenger purchase. Is 1 day for $42.00+ or 3 ? more spendy then i was prepared for.
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This is a paypal create account or use paypal account only payment. Am I missing the gateway only option. There is usually a way to pay using paypal just as the payment processor, and not needing an account.
FWIW My company was banned years ago for weapons policy violations.
FWIW My company was banned years ago for weapons policy violations.
Last year we had the extra grand county fee that you had to select separately. I chose to roll that into the cost of the trail to save yet another transaction.
I’m over $900 of my own money fronting for the cost of the permits with the county, state and BLM permits. That cost doesn’t include my time factored in either. I have yet to get the bill for the insurance yet but I expect it to be north of $700.
I can’t help the costs being what they are. I’ve got the pricing set to cover the costs of permits with whatever extra going to the insurance bill. The raffle will have to cover the remaining balance on the insurance, of which I will have paid for up front.
So I get it. But I’m not trying to make a huge profit to line my own pockets here. I’m trying to strike a balance between covering the costs involved and not being out of pocket personally.
That’s the blunt reality here if we want to stay above board and do this event legally within grand county, Utah and BLM we have to get permits.
I’m over $900 of my own money fronting for the cost of the permits with the county, state and BLM permits. That cost doesn’t include my time factored in either. I have yet to get the bill for the insurance yet but I expect it to be north of $700.
I can’t help the costs being what they are. I’ve got the pricing set to cover the costs of permits with whatever extra going to the insurance bill. The raffle will have to cover the remaining balance on the insurance, of which I will have paid for up front.
So I get it. But I’m not trying to make a huge profit to line my own pockets here. I’m trying to strike a balance between covering the costs involved and not being out of pocket personally.
That’s the blunt reality here if we want to stay above board and do this event legally within grand county, Utah and BLM we have to get permits.
I expected that it was Grand county fleecing us, just didn't realize the extent. Just be less money I spend in Moab durning my visit. Example 3 days of Manx Club runs anywhere in the US is $90-115 includes 2 t shirts, dinner fri or Satuday, doughnuts and coffee Saturday and Sunday. May not be a fair compressions, with the required membership fees, plus we still do a 50/50 and raffle donated items.
Speaking of raffle items, I have a couple items to donate, who has if any yet, with the raffle organization ?
Speaking of raffle items, I have a couple items to donate, who has if any yet, with the raffle organization ?
No one has ever made money running Blazer Bash. Ironically the only reason any fee is charged is because of the permit requirements which in turn triggers insurance requirements. BLM, State Trust Lands, and Grand County all end up about the same as far as what they charge. Heck, Rob even has to collect and file sales tax with the state of Utah.
That go to state, county and city funding. Last year was the first year they pushed that.
Hey bro. We do this every year. Wait your turn!
whew! Maybe I'll get a shirt this year!
I am pretty sure the Manx Club has an annul insurance policy. We are also a non profit, Any extra funds are returned to membership. last two years 2 ea complete Manx buggy body kits(last of the classic style) were raffled off, any current paid member was included, I didn't win one 
. This year after the buggies, funds were still left, so every current paid member will get a soft side Manx Club cooler. I do 3 outings a year with the club, There can be as many 14-15 events on 3 continents.
No event in Moab hmmm I wonder why
. This year after the buggies, funds were still left, so every current paid member will get a soft side Manx Club cooler. I do 3 outings a year with the club, There can be as many 14-15 events on 3 continents.No event in Moab hmmm I wonder why
First off let’s get this out of the way. The fact we have to pay to access our own public lands is crazy insane. Any individual could go out and drive any one of these trails short of hells revenge or fins n things which are on tribal land without spending a penny. Once you organize a group to do it together and advertise in advance it triggers the need for permits. Any organization that wants to stay in good standing with the local authorities needs to do this.
If we wanted to move the event anywhere else be it sand hollow or grand junction it would not be without doing the exact same thing. In Sand hollow Utah we’d have the same cost from SITLA and BLM. Plus what ever sand hollow state park charges and local county and city fees. Grand junction would have their own fees along with BLM and possible state fees too.
Let’s look at it more from what we are getting for our money than all of us getting fleeced. They are the ones that when/if we have a problem are going to come help us. All the departments that had to sign off our our permit could have some impact on us if something goes wrong. They have advance warning when and where we are going to be, plus the gps location we need to have. Like it or not that’s the Calvary that’s coming in to save our bacon if god forbid anything happen. I’m willing to pay for that service.
SITLA fees go to Utah schools.
BLM covers maintenance and improvements for the area where the permit is issued. Meaning it goes right back to the lands we are using.
I’ve have had my eyes really opened on all this business and while we all have our feelings on how the politics of Moab and Grand county towards OHV’s. But if we take the politics out of the equation it still comes down to the use. We can disagree on the political side but if we plan on doing anything we will have to pay the fees to use it. Any club would/should.
The difference here is we are splitting the costs between 50-60 of us vs a group like Easter jeep safari spreading the costs over thousands of participants.
I’m no math wiz, but the per person cost will be higher with a smaller group than a larger one given the same fees.
Please take this for the facts that they are. No snark or sarcasm intended. We want to use the land together we have to pay the fees.
Keep this in mind also, insurance costs are not factored into the pricing of the trail days. Had I rolled those costs in they would have been double. That’s why the door prizes (can’t call it a raffle) is so important. What ever we recoup from that goes to the insurance bill without adding to the trail fees. One can buy more tickets if you want and help out more or less from that side.
I hope everyone that covers it for everyone, but if anybody has a question don’t hesitate to ask here or pm me.
If we wanted to move the event anywhere else be it sand hollow or grand junction it would not be without doing the exact same thing. In Sand hollow Utah we’d have the same cost from SITLA and BLM. Plus what ever sand hollow state park charges and local county and city fees. Grand junction would have their own fees along with BLM and possible state fees too.
Let’s look at it more from what we are getting for our money than all of us getting fleeced. They are the ones that when/if we have a problem are going to come help us. All the departments that had to sign off our our permit could have some impact on us if something goes wrong. They have advance warning when and where we are going to be, plus the gps location we need to have. Like it or not that’s the Calvary that’s coming in to save our bacon if god forbid anything happen. I’m willing to pay for that service.
SITLA fees go to Utah schools.
BLM covers maintenance and improvements for the area where the permit is issued. Meaning it goes right back to the lands we are using.
I’ve have had my eyes really opened on all this business and while we all have our feelings on how the politics of Moab and Grand county towards OHV’s. But if we take the politics out of the equation it still comes down to the use. We can disagree on the political side but if we plan on doing anything we will have to pay the fees to use it. Any club would/should.
The difference here is we are splitting the costs between 50-60 of us vs a group like Easter jeep safari spreading the costs over thousands of participants.
I’m no math wiz, but the per person cost will be higher with a smaller group than a larger one given the same fees.
Please take this for the facts that they are. No snark or sarcasm intended. We want to use the land together we have to pay the fees.
Keep this in mind also, insurance costs are not factored into the pricing of the trail days. Had I rolled those costs in they would have been double. That’s why the door prizes (can’t call it a raffle) is so important. What ever we recoup from that goes to the insurance bill without adding to the trail fees. One can buy more tickets if you want and help out more or less from that side.
I hope everyone that covers it for everyone, but if anybody has a question don’t hesitate to ask here or pm me.
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Including weddings of over 25 people at a personal residence. (so it is not just off roaders.)
"Donate" to the event for more door prices.
